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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Help: Non-Transtastic puberty-awareness books please!

26 replies

WootMoggie · 21/12/2020 22:16

Has anyone got any gender-bullshit-free puberty awareness book recommendations for girls?

I wat to order something that arrives before Christmas. The ones I have seen so far on Amazon either have sections on self-ID, feeling like a boy, or gender dysphoria.

This is for a aspie girl (11y), and I don't want her exposed to that stuff in an important book she may need to rely on.

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Whatwouldscullydo · 21/12/2020 22:22

The care and keeping of you is quite good.

I didnt spot any gender nonsense in it anyway

Whatwouldscullydo · 21/12/2020 22:35

Although I would message Hq and get the title of your thread changed.

Be a shame if you didn't get any suggestions as it got deleted. Some of the books can be very helpful

WootMoggie · 21/12/2020 22:46

That one's pitched at age 8, and the "V2" for older girls (completely different author) comes under some criticism on Amazon.

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Nomnomarrgh · 22/12/2020 01:57

I got dd The Girl Guide by Marawa Ibrahim from Waterstones. It helped to explain things that I can’t.

FWRLurker · 22/12/2020 03:07

“It’s so amazing” is what I got for my 8yo neurotypical kid, idk if it’s US only but it’s LGB and other family structure inclusive without gender woo (that I could find anyway).

midclegs · 22/12/2020 07:20

My daughter enjoyed this: The Girl Guide https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/1847809480/ref=cmswwrcppapifabccY3z4FbDDMMGYD?encoding=UTF8&psc=1

midclegs · 22/12/2020 07:28

Posted too soon.

It has a short section on how girls' bodies might attract unwelcome attention. Not described as that so much but one of the images on the Amazon listing is that page.

It's simple, perhaps a little cringe but I would definitely buy it for a tween. Questions can then jump from that starting point.

Also this was recommended to me initially by a mum friend whose profession is safe-guarding, if that helps!

midclegs · 22/12/2020 07:33

@Nomnomarrgh

I got dd The Girl Guide by Marawa Ibrahim from Waterstones. It helped to explain things that I can’t.
Sorry, missed your recommendation!
Natsku · 22/12/2020 07:39

I got DD 'What's happening to me?' usborne book, its good, nice and factual

Also got Its So Amazing, it had a paragraph about gender identity but that was all.

WootMoggie · 22/12/2020 09:25

In "The Girl Guide" is this paragraph new?

I'm just not down with the "Born in the wrong body" narrative appearing uncritically like this in a book for an autistic girl, and none of the previous posts have mentioned this paragraph so I wondered if this was a new addition?.

Help: Non-Transtastic puberty-awareness books please!
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WootMoggie · 22/12/2020 09:26

(its on page 193)

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Whatwouldscullydo · 22/12/2020 10:57

Why don't you list the books you have and aren't suitable

Then we can go from there

PlantMam · 22/12/2020 11:48

Buy something secondhand and published prior to 2012.

Orf1abc · 22/12/2020 11:54

You could get over yourself and allow your daughter to have a full understanding of the subject. You might not like it but transpeople are part of our communities, your daughter will meet them in education and in employment, she shouldn't be restricted to the information that suits your viewpoint.

PlantMam · 22/12/2020 11:57

@Orf1abc

You could get over yourself and allow your daughter to have a full understanding of the subject. You might not like it but transpeople are part of our communities, your daughter will meet them in education and in employment, she shouldn't be restricted to the information that suits your viewpoint.
It’s a book on puberty. There are still only Two types of puberty, still only two types of gametes, and both types are still needed to make babies, so no need to get one’s knickers in a twist with needlessly detailed information.

We don’t teach A level maths to 10 year olds (unless they are maths wizzes) no need to teach about trans bodies to children (unless it’s specifically relevant to that child).

Whatwouldscullydo · 22/12/2020 12:08

Autistic children are also pretty vulnerable so uts even more vital that the book deals with facts she will be able to get her head around and the rest can he explained in an age appropriate way if its something her parents feel she will understand.

WootMoggie · 22/12/2020 12:43

Why don't you list the books you have and aren't suitable

I don't have any books - hence me asking.

Any information I do have is from going in to "Look Inside" in Amazon and searching through each one I come across and it's both time-consuming and not very reliable.

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Whatwouldscullydo · 22/12/2020 12:44

Ok sorry it seemed as if you had them , didn't realise you could look inside on amazon like that I've usually just gone by reviews

Clymene · 22/12/2020 12:48

I also had the what's happening to me book.

RosesforMama · 22/12/2020 12:57

I gave DD "The Girl Files" which doesn't include any stuff about gender identity.

WootMoggie · 22/12/2020 13:03

didn't realise you could look inside on amazon

Quite often (but not always). Also the amount you can see can vary significantly from little more than the contents page to (rarely) many pages. Most have just a few pages so it's hard to judge. For example, you might see in the contents that there's a chapter on "Gender" and have no access to that chapter at all.

Also, a lot of the previews say things like "This is the 2006 edition, a preview of the 2017 edition is not available" and it is the most recent versions that are most likely to be captured by woke gender woo woo nonsense.

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Whatwouldscullydo · 22/12/2020 13:08

I'd be interested on your take on the V2 of the books I suggested. Mine are quite old as my oldest is 14 now so its possible it missed it.

RosesforMama · 22/12/2020 13:08

I also like the very sensible messaging about sexuality here in the Girl Files.

Help: Non-Transtastic puberty-awareness books please!
thirdfiddle · 22/12/2020 18:01

RosesForMama "Don't rush to put a label on yourself". I like that messaging very much.

JustTurtlesAllTheWayDown · 24/12/2020 11:19

You could get over yourself and allow your daughter to have a full understanding of the subject. You might not like it but transpeople are part of our communities, your daughter will meet them in education and in employment, she shouldn't be restricted to the information that suits your viewpoint.
I have no problem with trans people and we have trans people in my family that my dc know well, understand and respect.
This is not the issue. When it comes to learning about the changes that come with puberty, like the OP, I'm looking for an informative book that doesn't tell children that they might be in the wrong body if they don't fit outdated and regressive stereotypes of what it to be a girl or a boy. Finding that is a lot harder than it sounds.