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Valentina Petrillo - Italian Paralympian sprinter

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andyoldlabour · 19/12/2020 12:45

Back in September, Valentina Petrillo won gold medals in the 100m, 200m and 400m, at the Italian Paralynpic championships in the T12 class.
In 2018 Valentina was competing in the men's division and won gold at 200m and 400m.
Valentina has achieved the qualifying time in all three events for the Tokyo Paralympics next year.

www.outsports.com/2020/9/18/21443929/italy-athletics-valentina-petrillo-transgender-athletes-athletics-paralympics-tokyo-sprints

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jellyfrizz · 19/12/2020 20:00

[quote gardenbird48]Jesolo will also be an important test for the visually impaired T12 sprinter Valentina Petrillo (Homer Bergamo), the first transgender athlete in the world admitted in an official race among women.
In his Paralympic sports career he has already won 11 Italian titles in the men's category, before embarking on transitional hormone therapy in January 2019. Today its blood parameters of testosterone are within the required limits (10 nanomols) to be able to compete in the female gender, as indicated by the 2015 IOC guidelines

So all this athlete had to do was reduce their testosterone which has clearly not had much negative impact on their performance as they swept the board against much younger athletes. Can the officials approving this not see the link there at all??

from this article below, the pronouns have gone a bit wappy because google translated it from Italian for me.
fispes.it/news/atletica-paralimpica-assoluti-jesolo-caironi-al-rientro.-gara-tra-le-donne-la-prima-atleta-transgender[/quote]
A quick google says that the average (mean) for a 40 year old ale is 13 nmol (www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4190174/).

jellyfrizz · 19/12/2020 20:01

ale? *male

WombOfOnesOwn · 19/12/2020 20:03

Visual impairment presents an interesting parallel.

Far more than sex, visual impairment is a spectrum. Some people are absolutely and entirely blind, some see very well, and in between there are people at nearly every imaginable shade of ability in the spectrum.

Since this is how sex is supposed to be according to gender theorists, this should present a salient avenue for comparison and analogy.

The Paralympics event for the visually impaired is for people with very significant visual impairment. Now, it could well be that for many sports, just being visually impaired enough to need glasses (and maybe having funny-shaped eyeballs that don't take well to contacts) would be a significant impediment to elite achievement. Yet for those people who are in the middle (who exist in numbers significantly higher than those with severe impairments who might be Paralympic-eligible), it's kind of "tough luck." The Paralympics aren't pressured to admit every person who is even mildly visually impaired. They're kept for the people who are most-impacted by their difference.

No one gives them a hard time for it. No one would even say that the blind athletes should make room for and pity the sighted but visually impaired athletes who may not be able to successfully compete in elite athletics because of their sight but aren't disabled enough to be in the Paralympics. CERTAINLY no one would say that it was fine for a sighted person to compete, as long as they documented how they'd kept blinders on for a year (at least whenever they had to come in for testing!).

This analogy shows how ridiculous it is for us to even be considering intersex people/people with DSD competing in women's leagues, much less trans people whose biological sex is not in doubt as male. Even a blind man could see it.

Europilgrim · 19/12/2020 20:07

In Italian pronouns are often omitted but sex shows up in other ways in the language. In that article, they refer to "la Petrillo" which is unequivocally female.

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