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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

LGBT Youth Scotland school trans training

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NeurotrashWarrior · 14/12/2020 21:27

I’ve just come across a transcript for the LGBT Youth transgender training for schools and am rather agog at the implications of some of this stuff.

[[https://twitter.com/forwomenscot/status/1338064300984987648?s=21]]

Blog with the transcript:

[[https://forwomen.scot/13/12/2020/george-watsons-college-staff-transgender-training]]/

It’s all about pushing affirmation and doing so behind parents’ backs where they don’t affirm, labelling them “unsupportive” and backing this up with evidence of the difference in stats on suicide etc of they’re supportive. (From ‘soon to be published non statutory government guidance,’ see slide below.)

Lots on assuring access to different facilities for "safety" ( a gender neutral loo is discussed and has apparently failed as was taken over by some boys.)

Hiding info from parents:

If a pupil asks you to use a different pronoun, that’s also okay. I think it’s important to like re-engage in conversations. Just remember that if you’re not, if this isn’t happening at home, I want to make sure you are getting the support that you need. So for instance, parents teacher like interviews, you know, is it safe for me to use this name and this pronoun, you know, in front of your parents in that situation. And if it’s not, you know, reverting, I’m gonna have to use your old name or your old pronoun in that situation.”

A staff member asks for more info on affirmation:

Okay. Em, yeah, thank you so much for that, that was really helpful. I think, particularly the information about the social transition, I’ve never really heard that term before. So that’s quite, that was really useful. And yeah, I’d be really keen to hear more about that affirmative approach, so if that was something, maybe in the future we could possibly like, arrange, and but what, if you could send out the slides, I can pass that around to everyone.”

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ArabellaScott · 15/12/2020 12:29

I had a look at their committee - one of them is an adviser for the ScotGov.

Grellbunt · 15/12/2020 12:41

I have already been in discussions with our LA (listed there) but I was given the impression that it had not yet been launched. But Gore Glen is in Midlothian and it is a state school - that’s a a major overreach there particularly given the doubt cast on the Guidelines. This whole thing is chilling.

Grellbunt · 15/12/2020 12:50

Betsy - Complaint to the Charity Commission, acting outwith scope ?

Grellbunt · 15/12/2020 12:50

Sorry of course I mean the OSCR

Zandathepanda · 15/12/2020 15:28

NeurotrashWarrior don’t worry I wasn’t upset with your post but the image is still difficult. Good of you for bringing it up. I am not in Scotland but I hope someone raises this with the organisation. For those of us unfortunate to have to deal with the immediate aftermath of someone taking their own lives that way, you can imagine the rawness of its suggestiveness. That’s why it is so much more than unkind to imply that if you don’t completely support your son/daughter then this is on you.
Also to those young people seeing it: if your mum and dad don’t support you - this is what you could do.
All in cartoon and bright colours format.
It’s hideous.

ArabellaScott · 15/12/2020 19:34

[quote rogdmum]Grellbunt They go into lots of schools. The list of Councils that endorse their guidance is on page 58 here:

lgbtyouth.org.uk/media/1344/supporting-transgender-young-people.pdf[/quote]
Oh, for once my council is blameless! Whoop!

NeurotrashWarrior · 15/12/2020 21:44

Zanda that image in a staff training, so jauntily placed, is crass and horrid for anyone, let alone someone who has lost a loved one.

It's all incredibly coercive isn't it?

I watched Posie review that bbc programme on trans parents and a particularly tough and gutting phrase was said by one of the girls, immediately distracted on camera by a fluffy cat, (they're in a cat cafe) which also distracted the girls and the narrative glossed over obvious symptoms of trauma and moved on to fluffy cats being stroked.

So much of this is coerced.

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RunningWild12 · 15/12/2020 22:05

ArabellaScott Totally agree. There was never a proper investigation or inquiry into LGBTYS after Jamie Rennie conviction. Why not? Because people were afraid of being called homophobic? Because govt happy to brush issues under carpet as opposed to squarely facing up to problems?
How was Scotland’s most notorious child sex abuser able to get into the position he did, what signs were missed, were their issues in governance of LGBTYS?

We don’t know as govt hasn’t bothered to find out but will throw money at the org and farm out policy formation to it.

I wish we could get rid of this govt come May, but it looks as though it will be corrupt business as usual.

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