Documentary on lack of support for trans people

[accessorizequeen]

Aren’t documentaries meant to be objective?

I take it that should be 'recent' Tavistock ruling.
Though 'reason' is, indeed, a word.

Oh...and I'd call it the Court of Protection ruling.
Though, once again, I can see why others might not want to do that.

I mean, it would be a great help if someone could actually define what trans is.

It is a health condition that requires NHS treatment (and suing the NHS during a global pandemic because of waiting times), then it's suddenly not (when people want self id).

It is stereotypes, it's not stereotypes.

It's born in the wrong body, it's not born in the wrong body.

It's a mental health condition (causing suicidal feelings), it's not a mental health condition.

Therapy is ''conversion therapy'', yet now the Tavistock report is published and it shows mental health doesn't improve, suddenly tras are saying the Tavi are at fault for not offering mental health support.

Where do you even begin trying to support them when nothing is right?

I think it's about time they stop letting activists dictate healthcare.

There probably is a lack of support. Trouble is, as a pp pointed out, there is no agreement about what support they are after.

Or do they mean support as in cheerleader support, rather than practical support?

Given the “recent” High Court ruling, one hopes that this documentary would focus on mental health support for kids with gender dysphoria. I suspect, given those involved (including Mermaids) that it will be a very one-sided argument for puberty blockers.

@accessorizequeen

Aren’t documentaries meant to be objective?

It involves LOJ and Shon Fae.

Objectionable, certainly. Objective, most unlikely.

Or do they mean support as in cheerleader support, rather than practical support?

Dammit, I was going to write that.

All trans people should have someone allocated to wave pom-poms at them when in public at least half an hour a day.

"Give me a T!" "T!"...

Considering its OJ its going to be as objective as designating all working class people 'chavs'.😔

"lack of support"

Same is true for basically everything. Try being a single parent of a disabled child who doesn't have a school to go to!

But. But. What about #nodebate? #KeepItShtum?

Can I join the documentary after being on a waiting list for 2 years to have my rectal prolapse fixed? I am still nowhere near the top of the list apparently and will have an even longer wait with covid. Childbirth has a lot to answer for and some days it's horrendous for quality of life, but yet I still wait on the waiting list. This isn't just unique to trans people.

@accessorizequeen

Given the “recent” High Court ruling, one hopes that this documentary would focus on mental health support for kids with gender dysphoria. I suspect, given those involved (including Mermaids) that it will be a very one-sided argument for puberty blockers.

Mental health support = conversion therapy according to TRAs though doesn't it? Doubt any would publicly claim to be for it, especially given they actively fight to have LESS because all evidence shows only transition as early as possible 'helps'

Has Owen explained why trans people need medical treatment when they don't have a health condition?

Gender dysphoria must be the only condition which is self-diagnosed via stereotypes, and needs urgent medical treatment despite being neither a mental health condition nor a physical health condition.

Really good question OldCrone.

What medical treatment is being asked for?

Cancer treatments? Resetting bones? Hip replacement? Tooth extraction?

How is it lack of support to want evidence based health care . Proper records and follow ups and any Co existing mental health conditions dealt with. And if course that all important definition. After all with such physically altering treatment we should at least know what it is we are treating and why.

How's it our fault that organisations say one thing and the nhs say another and neither explanation is compatible with eachother.

That's not on us, and its not unsupportive to point out the contradictions.

Questions are not discriminatory. They are a vital part of everything. If we don't ask questions then we never get the information.

Old Crone - completely agree that question needs answering. Not a doctor but I see so many similarities to anorexia nervosa.

I've seen it argued that trans people also have poor mental health, not because they are trans but because of the way they are treated by other people.

But that doesn't explain why they would need medical treatment to change their bodies, paid for by the NHS.

I can imagine the trauma of being dysphoric as well as dealing with other people’s judgement would affect trans people. Of course. That’s why I am mystified that counselling etc is not the first step for Tavistock. (Or any adult gender clinic but I don’t know how it works for those)