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Yet another maternity scandal in the NHS

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MoltenLasagne · 11/12/2020 15:02

Today there are reports on the outcome of the review into yet another NHS maternity scandal, this time at Shrewsbury and Telford hospitals.

The themes are horribly reminiscent of previous scandals - women not listened to, warning signs missed, c sections refused when they should have been the course of action. Then to add insult to gravest of injuries, mothers blamed for staff failings, intentional cover ups and bereaved parents having to fight for the truth.

This feels to me very much like a feminist issue. Also, hearing from friends who have had babies this year how much they have felt abandoned both during labour and by health visitors once home, I'm worried we have yet another scandal brewing.

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Mammyofasuperbaby · 13/12/2020 11:44

Its been horrendous to be pregnant during the pandemic. Ive been lucky to be closely monitored due to previous issues in past pregnancies but it still took 4 hospital visits and masses of blood tests after I started collapsing regularly to discover I was severely anaemic (why?)
My son was born via elcs and was extremely ill from birth but was never taken to the nicu like my eldest so I was stuck in the hospital for weeks with no rest or help from family ect. He was home for less than a day when he was rushed back to hospital but not by ambulance as they couldn't spare one for a 3 week old baby.
Hospital were horrified when they saw him as he was limp, grey and on the brink of total collapse. He was transfered to a specialist hospital and had surgery 2 days later and was home 3 days after that, fit and well.
I already have ptsd from my eldests birth (nearly lost him) lost my next 2 and was forced into a medical management of miscarriage against my wishes which left me hemorrhaging in a carpark on my way home, and its only added.
My needs or those of my baby were largely ignored. Covid was always the excuse but frankly I dont think things have changed that much, its still awful

PlantMam · 13/12/2020 11:52

Mammy Flowers

It’s been a spectacularly awful time to have a baby for so many reasons. My opposite neighbour had a baby at the end of Feb so avoided the hospital Covid controls. However, all the usual face to face support frameworks have been decimated (we were lucky enough to retain a handful of sure start style centres locally when the majority lost theirs, but they closed overnight due to Covid).

I fully expect the PND figures to be much higher than usual this year, purely due to the multiplication effect of average extra social isolation due to a new born times the lack of the usual support networks.

Just a shit time all round.

(I’ve personally been able to access a bit of PTSD support via self referral direct to Adult Mental
Health services and appointments via video call. Please do the same if you haven’t already! Might be a bit of a wait but better to get the ball rolling than wait).

Mammyofasuperbaby · 13/12/2020 12:27

Thank you @PlantMam, I've already tried accessing help from the NHS many times. It helps for a while but as soon as I show improvement they stop the sessions with a "you're cured" mentality except im not, something will happen and I'm back to square one.

PlantMam · 13/12/2020 12:40

I’m so sorry to hear that. Sadly it does seem to be limited to patching a person up a bit, rather than a proper fix.

Lots of variety in the quality of clinicians too.

mathanxiety · 15/12/2020 05:52

^I worked in US and saw way more birth injuries there than in the UK.
One big problem there is that if I as a nurse were to question or challenge a doctor I could be sacked pretty quick.^
This is probably very much a local quirk.

Also, you could have 50 doctors with admitting privileges to one obstetric unit, all with their own ideas and foibles. If a woman came in almost in second stage you had to hope for the best that the OB would get there quickly. Back then ( don't know if it is better now) if the nurse ended up delivering the baby, the insurance would quibble about the fees. The doctors would be very put out if they didn't get their money.

The nurse would be very unlikely to do the delivery unless a woman arrived about to deliver in triage. In a great many hospitals you are at guaranteed at least a resident.

I had five deliveries in the US. The first two times my own OB was present for the delivery, in a university hospital. The third baby was delivered by a resident in obstetrics.

I had private insurance. The fee for the entire OB service from first visit to delivery and beyond that to the six week checkup for all three babies even though my OB couldn't get to the third delivery in time was $3,900 a pop.

The hospital also billed - there were room charges, delivery room charges, charges for all sorts of services and medications, from changing sheets to an IV, and the babies also generated charges. The hospital bill was far higher than the doctors' bills. Then on top of that there was an anesthesiologist bill for my first DC.

OTOH, if you were poor, unemployed or black you might be lucky to get through A and E in a government hospital, or you might get poor care or no care at all. Some poor women couldn't afford prenatal care, so already at risk.
Not so.
I had my last two babies with public insurance, through a state administered programme called Kidcare. I delivered my fourth baby in the same university hospital, under the care of the same OB team for my entire pregnancy. As with DC3, a resident was present for the birth itself.

All pregnant women lacking private maternity insurance, including undocumented immigrants (in most states) can qualify for full maternity coverage and coverage for their babies up to age 4 (maybe older).

For DC5, again with Kidcare, my OB practice had moved to a hospital too hard for me to get to so I switched to a midwifery practice in a local hospital. I had continuity of care from the first visit through to the delivery and post natal checkup. I had a private room in the hospital - there are no wards.

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