Gender differences & emotions

[Purplelemon7]

Hi

I’m having a discussion with someone over whether women are 1)less rational and more emotional and 2)less able to cope with stress

They have cited this article to me (which includes a lot of empirical studies):
www.psychologytoday.com/gb/blog/sexual-personalities/201504/are-women-more-emotional-men
It talks about women experiencing more negative emotions than men. My response to that would be that that’s only natural for a group that is more oppressed and discriminated against.

For part 2 I think this is the relevant study:
psycnet.apa.org/record/2004-20320-009
I’m less sure about what to say to this one.

I’m just starting out on my journey to trying to better understand feminism and I’m not a scientist. I would love to hear some of your thoughts. Thank you.

I am a season ticket holder for premier league football team.
Attendance is male dominated. I’m the only woman among several hundred men in my section. In a Stadium of over 50,000 mainly men.
I defy anyone to attend and tell me that men are not emotional. I’ve heard this rubbish trotted out for so many years.
If your team is losing or there’s a perceived injustice by the ref, or a moment of history by a dying second winning goal - there is pure, raw emotion. Crying, fighting, shouting, jumping, whatever. It’s emotion. Often gets displayed differently but it’s still emotion.

I’ve rarely if ever had a conversation about this where there wasn’t a man there trying to get a reaction for his own amusement.

I’m unlikely to get involved in it these days (except with women). ‘Wind up a feminist’ is sadly a common game I’ve found.

Shouldn’t this be about sex differences, not gender differences (whatever those are)?

@TheGreatSloth Yeah, I thought we all agreed that gender isn't real due to it being made up nonsense.
Gender seems to include Women enjoying shutting up and being nice which surely no one believes is anything other than repressing emotions and it ignores Men battering other Men/Children/Women to describe them as rational and in control of their emotions.

That's before you get to the weird 'Sex is something Nice Wifely Women tolerate for Husbandy Men, except for evil Slags who enjoy being attractive/outside/drunk/alone to incite Rape from the Men who are totally in control of their emotional state'

It's all bullshit. When did this shit go back to the stupidity we see now? Serious query

I’m just starting out on my journey to trying to better understand feminism

By trying to find proof that women are less able to cope with their emotions?

Although there was no difference in the number of life events experienced in the previous two years, the women rated their life events as more negative and less controllable than the men

with the women listing family and health-related events more frequently than the men, whereas the men listed relationship, finance and work-related events

So the same number of Men got married and became the one who gave birth and were doing the child rearing & wife work as Women did?

But Men did not include the children they'd given birth to and had to rear as causes of stress? they only only included money, jobs and friendships/shags/colleagues. Weird that Men didnt include the kids they'd given birth to and reared as life events.

Why is that study included? It's useless

I quit reading Psychology Today because of the overt sexism in many articles and pure nonsense in others.

OP this chap is basically playing a fun (for him) game of "your team is inferior to mine and you are inferior to me. Now let me put down anything you say to the contrary" with you. He's a bore. Find someone more interesting to talk to.

Also anecdotal: plenty of male children who dissolve into tears and lash out at the drop of a hat come from socialised situations where male negative emotions are taken more seriously than female emotions, and everyone drops everything to respond to them. And there is less expectation of learning to tolerate uncomfortable feelings. Watch a nursery or young primary class lining up some time: little boys, young enough to be uninhibited and to just act naturally, will often shove in at the front. Girls will often, when displaced by a boy, give space and step aside. Likewise on the street: women automatically give space to men, there are MNetters who have intentionally played with this when walking and held the space and waited for the male person approaching to do their share of automatic, instinctive co operative moving around/out of the way. It's often ended with a confused male who has walked right into someone and can't understand why. Socialisation. Huge thing.

Also role models: many kids are exposed to adults with poor self control, emotional regulation and way too much stress, and witness a lot of meltdowns upto and including domestic violence. The statistics bear out which group tend to be dominant as the aggressors, and whom provide almost all of the statistics for serious injury, serious threats and murder in the course of domestic abuse.

Nothing but observations and opinion though.