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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Jo Maugham

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GoodbyePorpoiseSpit · 04/12/2020 20:51

I follow Jo on Twitter and feel that the GoodLaw project is a needed and good thing when it comes to holding ministers/gov spending to account. He seems to take refuge in the rule of law and facts .... so, so WHY after the recent ruling on puberty blockers is he tweeting and retweeting Trans folk who are sharing (in emotive and extra detail) their experience post ruling. What his deal?? What’s his skin in the game? Looked through some old tweets and he really seems to have come down hard against women’s rights.
Ca anyone explain his deal here?

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littlbrowndog · 04/12/2020 22:22

Maybe he’s not used to women saying nope we won’t back down

justanotherneighinparadise · 04/12/2020 22:26

It’s certainly interesting that even after these companies drive to tick some diversity targets they still end up with a boardroom full of white males.

WeeBisom · 04/12/2020 22:29

His attitude towards this ruling is unhinged. He's not being objective about it at all. In fact, he's straight up lying. He is a QC so is bound to be seen as a cool headed authority on the law, so it's very depressing to see a legal professional behave in this way.

For example, he said the high court 'refused' to hear from a single trans person in the review. This makes me think he hasn't read the judgment because I recall at least three trans witnesses for the Tavistock, who all had favourable things to say about their treatment. So Maugham is either straight up lying, or he's made a massive mistake. He also repeats his claim that the court 'refused' to hear from a single trans charity. As I've mentioned before it's not particularly difficult to be able to intervene as a third party in a judicial review. The fact that neither Mermaids nor stonewall got permission to intervene suggests that their intervention either added nothing or was just straight up bad. If Jo wants to be mad at anyone for letting down trans kids he should be berating these charities for presenting such a poor case.
He then talks about 'suicide attempts' that he's heard of which is ...just crazily irresponsible language.

He finally berates white , privileged, upper middle class, privately educated people for talking about things they don't understand, and yet concedes that despite being white and posh and male he is using his voice to talk for trans people. Does he not think he's a member of that exceptionally privileged group of people?

And then his finale is to shriek that the ruling was a shameful, shameful, legal and moral blot for this country. But he's a tax lawyer. He doesn't work in family law, or medical law where an understanding of competency and consent is required (in fact, Jo has previously got in trouble for haughtily proclaiming that such areas of law are 'not prestigious'.) Shouldn't he really take his own advice and stop commenting on areas of the law he isn't trained in and doesn't understand?

SadlyMissTaken · 04/12/2020 22:36

People keep on saying he is affected by a family member or relative. I've seen no evidence of that. The reference to a neice/nephew was a quote. There are very many men heavily invested in trans rights. Why? Why do they feel they need to fight this fight in particular?

OldCrone · 04/12/2020 22:42

There are very many men heavily invested in trans rights. Why? Why do they feel they need to fight this fight in particular?

I could offer a simple explanation, but it would be swiftly deleted.

exLtEveDallas · 04/12/2020 22:47

There are very many men heavily invested in trans rights. Why? Why do they feel they need to fight this fight in particular?

Foxes in the henhouse. Although foxes need to be careful around our Jo.

GoodbyePorpoiseSpit · 04/12/2020 22:51

foxes need to be careful around our Jo Grin

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InterfectoremVulpes · 04/12/2020 22:53

They do indeed Grin

FannyCann · 04/12/2020 23:00

Excellent summing up WeeBisom

HecatesCatsInXmasHats · 04/12/2020 23:05

For example, he said the high court 'refused' to hear from a single trans person in the review. This makes me think he hasn't read the judgment because I recall at least three trans witnesses for the Tavistock, who all had favourable things to say about their treatment. So Maugham is either straight up lying, or he's made a massive mistake.

He's lying

littlbrowndog · 04/12/2020 23:10

There was trans people giving witness

Why is he lying

HecatesCatsInXmasHats · 04/12/2020 23:13

Plus Mermaids & Stonewall weren't able to put forward new or relevant evidence that's why they weren't included.

HecatesCatsInXmasHats · 04/12/2020 23:14

He says it because it generates outrage.

RedToothBrush · 04/12/2020 23:19

Maugham managed to get himself into a position where he was highly respected and influential a couple of year ago, making his name off the back of brexit. He became something of a 'twitter star'.

Its possible as thats faded he's just looking for the next issue to make a name for himself / maintain the influence / status he has previously had both on twitter and in wider outside circles.

This happens to be the idea he has hitched his wagon to, knowing its more popular with younger people and its a key issue of both the LD and Labour Parties.

It could therefore be straight sucking up to certain people or an outright opportunistic position which he thinks he can get popularity / status from in a way not altogether different to Mr Garage.

lanadelgrey · 04/12/2020 23:19

I just looked at the board members - just two. Seems like a small number to have on a board. Were there more, has someone or some people left recently? Two chums from the same school/uni, hardly needs a board does it?

RedToothBrush · 04/12/2020 23:20

@HecatesCatsInXmasHats

He says it because it generates outrage.
Indeed. It gets him attention.

The same way Trump gets attention and fanatical support.

FloraFox · 04/12/2020 23:24

I don’t know how he is as a tax lawyer but his work in other areas suggests he’s the type of lawyer who construes the law to suit his facts without the ability to step back and analyze it objectively. I don’t mean advocating your case but not actually analyzing it properly. For example, his response to Keira’s case is so weak. What evidence does he think Mermaids or Stonewall would have brought that would have changed the decision? And why didn’t they just give it to the Tavi? Also, I find it “surprising” that they didn’t consider the possible outcomes of Keira’s case in the opinion they published on their waiting list case. There are some other glaring problems with that case they don’t seem to have considered. Either they haven’t thought of them or the opinion they published is not their whole advice, which is misleading if you are using it to raise money. It’s a bizarre decision in itself to publish the advice, which suggests he hasn’t fully considered what he’s doing here. Also, I agree with the PP about him charging in to an area of law he has no experience in. He seems to think tax law is harder so he can turn his hand to any area of law he fancies.

Along with arrogance, he has a strong sense of himself as a good person. I think he’s blinded himself to the possibility of being in the wrong, legally or morally. This seems to be quite common among these so-called lefty men.

All in all, a toxic combination.

WinterIsGone · 04/12/2020 23:31

I just looked at the board members - just two.
It's actually three if you scroll across, I think.

accessorizequeen · 04/12/2020 23:38

I think he’s incredibly emotive for a lawyer. He called Fair Cop a terrorist organisation.

Sarah Phillimore (@SVPhillimore) Tweeted: I am making formal complaint to the Bar Standards Board. This is appalling, disgraceful conduct. t.co/a7ff1oodYh

Siameasy · 04/12/2020 23:38

He’s infected with whatever Susie Green has that causes her to spout nonsense
Caught it off a Fox maybe?

HecatesCatsInXmasHats · 04/12/2020 23:46

@Biscuitsanddoombar

I do find it amusing but enraging that JM lectures us that white middle class oxbridge men have too much privilege & that we need to listen to marginalised people

the board of the good law project

goodlawproject.org/about/

Living those values eh JM?

That's interesting Lord Stewart Wood used to be a v powerful figure in Whitehall. Former Chief Advisor in No 10.
DrudgeJedd · 04/12/2020 23:49

His Twitter bio is "perform your values" and he does love a touch of theatrics

PotholeParadies · 04/12/2020 23:57

@SadlyMissTaken

People keep on saying he is affected by a family member or relative. I've seen no evidence of that. The reference to a neice/nephew was a quote. There are very many men heavily invested in trans rights. Why? Why do they feel they need to fight this fight in particular?
Quote from JM: "(which echoes a journey of my own with someone I love)"
nauticant · 04/12/2020 23:58

Tax law is notoriously difficult and does attract a tiny group of very clever people who can master it.

However, people who have that extremely narrow form of cleverness sometimes assume they must be brilliant at everything. Which ironically is its own form of stupidity.

HecatesCatsInXmasHats · 05/12/2020 00:06

I've certainly got the impression from public utterances by JM & others close to him that they have a personal connection (one that he hasn't publicly disclosed as a motivation for his campaign to ensure children have access to puberty blockers).

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