BBC article - women disadvantaged by excessive queues but gender neutral people feel unsafe in the mens.

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BBC article.

Implies the only issue women object to in relation to gender neutral mixed sex toilets is being disadvantaged by excessive queues. The real is is that gender neutral people feel unsafe in the mens.

No quote from women about their safety, or privacy, or ideas about how to make the men’s safer for men.

But there’s an email address to write to with your opinions.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-55164675

Single cubicles are a safety risk as well. Hidden down a dark basement in a bar, soundproofed if floor to ceiling. Easy for a predator to lurk in . Dangerous as well should someone go to the loo feeling ill . At least multiple cubicles the predator knows others may be coming in and if someone is taken ill others hear. This is not far fetched as it happened to someone I know ... heart attack preceded by intense nausea went to loo feeling they were going to be sick and was luckily in a multiple cubicle loo so someone heard the call for help

Yes. Separate men's loos, separate women's loos, separate third space/mixed sex/gender neutral/whatever loos.

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What is the argument against having single cubicle toilets? Other than space to put them. Rather than a shared basin area, you go in from the public corridor or whatever to your own individual room with toilet, basin, mirror. Everyone's safe because no-one can get in (unless they force their way in of course, but that's true anywhere and would hopefully be socially frowned upon.)

Well that is simply not true. I have been in many a ‘unisex’ toilet where the normal stall loos have just had a handwritten sign stuck over the original ‘men’s’ or ‘women’s’ sign. I’ve been in unisex toilets without floor to ceiling walls and one with a urinal in it! Neither men or women are happy with this new phenomenon.

Men’s toilets are rank, try taking young children with you into a toilet covered in wee and shit all in the toilet bowl. It’s grim and unhygienic as well as potentially unsafe.

Does anyone have a template covering all the points to email to [email protected]

I would love to be a fly on the wall if loads of women could start using the gent's loos in the House of Lords and started washing their moon cups in the hand basins!

Setting safety aside, there are times as a woman i would simply prefer to be in the company of other women. I remember helping a lady who was having a miscarriage in a public loo once. And another time a pregnant lady had fainted on the floor of a cubicle, she was crying. A colleague at work with morning sickness, who didn't want the men in our male-dominated office knowing about her pregnancy yet. And recently when a girl couldn't get a tampon out of the dispenser in a public loo because of course it had jammed and she was very embarrassed asking if anyone could give her one. And my SIL, dragging me into the loos because she was wearing tight white jeans and panicking her haemorrhoids were bleeding. Or going way back, being in a group of giggling teenage girls changing clothes and fixing our make up in the loos before hitting the town. I just don't want men there for this stuff. Does that make me a bad person?

I wonder what the male equivalents of these things are, is there a hidden side of life in the men's loos?

I don’t think there is male equivalents. That’s why they don’t understand. I asked my partner about it- he was rather surprised.

Single use cubicles take up more space, so you can't fit so many in, and venues who have to provide toilets also have to provide X number of toilets per Y number of users.

The design is most suitable for accessible toilets, not for general use.

I agree with Aesop make the men’s mixed sex. Leave women’s toilets as is.

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