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Clothing manufacturer censure woman for liking bad tweets

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jemari · 28/11/2020 18:28

This is ChloƩ Dygert who is a five-time World Champion at the age of 23.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chlo%C3%A9_Dygert

She had a nasty accident in September which required surgery, and a few days later this person was going through her Tweet likes (some 10,000+ of them):

twitter.com/badgerbaroudeur/status/1311219397323878400

She had liked a tweet from Candace Owens (who is black) about not allowing men in women's shelters, and another from Owens about Colin Kaepernick saying that Kaepernick was 'scamming the black community', another from Charlie Kirk saying 'in America hard work & choices determine success, not the color of your skin', and a fourth with Donald Trump tweeting some of his campaign posters.

Anyway, she was signed recently to a new cycling team and made to apologise for liking politically unacceptable tweets, which she did on her Instagram a couple of weeks ago

www.instagram.com/p/CHlPNmBlxV1/

This team happens to be sponsored by Rapha, who make very expensive cycling kit, which sells mostly to men. In 2016, according to Wikipedia they switched from the leading men's team to Dygert's new team

" On 3 November 2015 Rapha announced that their Team Sky sponsorship would end after the 2016 season. In an effort to grow and promote women's cycling, Rapha began supplying clothing to the UCI Women's WorldTour team Canyon-SRAM"

Anyway, Dygert hasn't SAID anything, but she did like tweets which people find offensive.

However, expensive clothing brand didn't like her liking bad opinions, and EMAILED their customers to tell them this.

This email reads as follows:

"As you know, earlier this year we committed to fighting discrimination within cycling as part of our wider effort to promote diversity, inclusion and greater equality in the sport we love. It’s absolutely imperative that as we develop our relationship with this subject, we do so with integrity. So we are writing to you today to clarify our position on the actions of new Canyon//SRAM Racing rider ChloĆ© Dygert who, back in June, endorsed racist and transphobic views on social media. Rapha wholeheartedly condemns these actions as they were offensive, divisive and have no place in cycling or society.

Since we became aware of this incident, we have taken time to fully investigate what happened, consulting with the rider, Canyon//SRAM Racing and other partners in order to take informed action in response. Having undergone that process, we believe that ChloƩ has made very serious errors of judgment, which were compounded by an apology she issued that was not sufficient. However, we also believe that trusting the ability of people to change is key to reaching any form of meaningful reconciliation. Having spoken to her at length, we believe that ChloƩ has the capacity and the will to listen, learn and to change.

All of us, the team and each of its partners, have acknowledged that we need to take action following this incident to ensure that this never happens again. Canyon//SRAM Racing have already taken clear steps to work with ChloƩ and is engaging with an external Diversity & Inclusion consultant in order to develop a comprehensive programme of diversity and inclusion training that focuses on dialogue and education. This is something that we believe will have a considerable impact within the team and beyond. Exact details of the program will be published by the team in the coming weeks.

As a result of our conversations, the willingness that ChloĆ© has demonstrated, and the meaningful actions that Canyon//SRAM Racing is putting in place, Rapha will continue to support the team. Acknowledging that they, like us, must do more to promote diversity, inclusion and equality, Canyon//SRAM Racing has been instrumental in promoting women’s cycling over the last five years, and the continuation of this work should not be jeopardised by the actions of one person. This incident has been an opportunity for all of us to learn and understand how much more we can all do.

Finally, we would like to reiterate our stance on this issue once more. Discrimination has no place in cycling or society, and we are committed to fighting it in all of its forms by promoting diversity, inclusion and equality in the sport. There is no issue we take more seriously, and should there be any subsequent breach of these standards, the team will review the position outlined immediately. As part of this process, we will be reviewing our own working policies and practices to prevent similar incidents in the future. The last two weeks have served only to intensify our commitment to improve, starting with the actions outlined here."

So she will be forced to undergo 're-education', and if she should like any more tweets suggesting that men don't belong in women's shelters, or like tweets they deem to be racist, they may take their sponsorship away from the team.

OP posts:
CaraDuneRedux · 29/11/2020 12:26

@PotholeParadies

Disciplining someone (because that is what this is) because they liked a tweet by the 2016-2020 president of the US. Presumably liking tweets by the 2008-2016 president and the 2020-2024 president will be okay.

Thank goodness for secret ballots.

I don't think I've ever liked anything Trump has ever tweeted, but other people still shouldn't have their likes policed by employers. What next? Disciplining people for letting it slip that they voted for the Republican candidate?

Someone started an AIBU thread recently where they argued everyone's voting record should be in the public domain because it would get rid of the phenomenon of the "shy Tory" and prevent people voting in ways the OP perceived to be "evil." There's a lot of people out there with all the instincts of authoritarian fascist dictators - and the right definitely doesn't have a monopoly on such people.
PotholeParadies · 29/11/2020 12:27

It's so indicative of being in a bubble isn't it? I wouldn't vote for Trump, but 73 million people just did.

They sell cycling gear. What rational reason does a cycling gear company have to think that American customers can't be Republicans? Do none of them have bikes?

questionn · 29/11/2020 12:30

Someone started an AIBU thread recently where they argued everyone's voting record should be in the public domain because it would get rid of the phenomenon of the "shy Tory" and prevent people voting in ways the OP perceived to be "evil."

That is terrifying.

Beamur · 29/11/2020 12:30

So, does that mean not a single male under the Rapha eye has committed retrospective wrong think? Hmm.

questionn · 29/11/2020 12:31

Do you think they would refuse to sell gear to Trump voters?

AuntyPasta · 29/11/2020 12:36

The Tour finally got rid of podium girls this year. The sponsors of the tour and/or the teams had the power to drop that ā€˜tradition’ years ago but somehow that wasn’t a priority for them. It’s arguable that Covid had more to do with it being dropped than anything else.

Clothing manufacturer censure woman for liking bad tweets
7Days · 29/11/2020 12:37

I would like companies to get back to green washing if they must virtue signal.
You might get the odd bale of organic cotton being bought, even if just for show it would might boost insect populations in a particular field in India.

Better than this thought policing, woman shaming undemocratic bollix.

andyoldlabour · 29/11/2020 13:02

CaraDuneRedux

As someone who is centre left myself, I think a lot of the rabid crew - Momentum, Antifa, BLM, TRA's are on the far left/anarchists. They thrive on cancel culture, misogyny, identity politics.
I probably wouldn't agree with a lot of Dygert's politics, but could and would appreciate her talent on the road and track.
I am more worried about guys who stalk women online, in order to find stuff to throw at them.
That takes a particularly warped personality.

okeydokeywokeyblokey · 29/11/2020 14:11

@Beamur

So, does that mean not a single male under the Rapha eye has committed retrospective wrong think? Hmm.
Maybe we should go hunting well known rapha supported men's timelines to find tweets and likes someone will find offensive , shouldn't be hard.
MrGHardy · 29/11/2020 19:35

"Just spooky that the first we hear of this is disciplining a female cyclist, when men’s cycling is so massively much bigger and well funded, eh?

Positively mystifying."

Quinn Simmons? I mean no one on this board would bring him up here though given he is a man. But he was even suspended indefinitely by Trek-Segafredo for perceived racism (some black hand emoji and also liking Trumps' tweets). There is also Gianni Moscon was suspended once for racism.

Beamur · 29/11/2020 19:41

Thing is I don't want to do that and have no interest in spreading the witch hunt. But I very much doubt that it would be difficult to find a male person who had done something similar.
The double standard is so blatant.
I am not a cyclist so won't be getting the woke scold email. But if you do, maybe ask if they're going to retrospectively check all the cyclists in their programme. Or just the female ones.

Manderleyagain · 29/11/2020 21:00

I can't believe they emailed all their customers abut a woman liking some tweets. Like they think their customers want this in their inbox? This is horrendous bullying of her. It's hideous. Nearly half the electorate voted trump. I expect their bubble is not as representative of their customers as they think. I hope customers push back about it. The horrible specimen who sent her tweet likes to them must be thrilled with how he's brought punishment on her.

SophocIestheFox · 29/11/2020 21:28

ah, interesting thanks Mrghardy, hadn’t heard of those.

SarahSaid · 29/11/2020 23:11

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highame · 30/11/2020 09:21

The world of cycling is unbelievably misogynistic and the US is becoming one of the worst offenders and believes it can ship its shit anywhere it likes. Money is power.

Angry 🄵

SophocIestheFox · 30/11/2020 09:33

What happen to sarahs comment? Confused

It had some content in it about the cyclists that MrG had highlighted, and I wanted to do some digging, but it’s gone now.

Annoying.

Matzeeo · 30/11/2020 12:18

Ah but Quinn Simmons is back on his team. With 'no further action', 'no denouncement and no re-education. He did apologise, this was enough to close the matter.
I've written to Rapha about their bullying.

ChattyLion · 30/11/2020 19:25

Absolutely agree 7Days

MissLawls · 01/12/2020 08:07

An apology was not sufficient!? For liking some tweets?

We are living in the new era of McCarthyism. Only this time it comes wearing a smile and an insistence that it's progressive. It is far far FAR more sinister than McCarthyism ever was. We need a Lillian Hellman for these days to stand up and say, as she did, "I cannot and will not cut my conscience to fit this year's fashions." When she said that, in 1952 in front of the House Committee on UnAmerican Activities, sighs were heard around the room. At last someone said it!

Until that happens and people come out from under the boot of the new fascists this will continue. However I am an optimist. McCarthyism eventually ended. This will too. Both were borne of an age of great uncertainty and fear. That breeds this sort of authoritarianism. It will get better.

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