Abigail Shriver book - article in the Times

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www.thetimes.co.uk/article/author-abigail-shrier-faces-threats-after-warning-of-trans-epidemic-sd6qjt8ww

Sorry I don't have a share token. Anyone? The comments are very good and very supportive. A lot of criticism of academia and about time. Grace Lavery features of course. US is now breaking ranks and the comment from Obama is interesting

I have looked at the book a number of times on Amazon and bought it today.

Just reading invisible women, that's an eye opener

I have just realised that Amazon has it listed as number 1 best seller in category “conservatism”!

I presume the image refers to firstly the likely loss of fertility for girls who take blockers followed by cross-sex hormones, and secondly perhaps also the fact that girls on testosterone are likely in the longer term to suffer vaginal atrophy and also increased cancer risks which mean that a hysterectomy is likely to be advised eventually. So they literally do have to have portions of their insides removed if they stay on the hormones too long. (Has anyone mentioned that in the comments?).

Shrier is literally talking about girls who are not trans who are caught up in this narrative. Any sensible trans advocate would welcome more scrutiny into this, not try and block it.

I got it from Blackwells as a normal order at a respectable price

Sorry just looked and out of stock at Blackwells

Just put it on my Christmas list

Grace Lavery is an academic at Berkeley in California, which is one of the wokest of American universities, so their language use is probably where others will follow. Their professional academic biog page shows how the language goalposts have moved again. Looks like it’s not directive enough to state ‘my pronouns are..’ any more, so now the ‘nudge technique’ is employed. Grace Lavery’s biog blurb says:

When people refer to me, they use the pronouns "she," "her," and "hers”.

english.berkeley.edu/faculty_books/228

[quote ChattyLion]Grace Lavery is an academic at Berkeley in California, which is one of the wokest of American universities, so their language use is probably where others will follow. Their professional academic biog page shows how the language goalposts have moved again. Looks like it’s not directive enough to state ‘my pronouns are..’ any more, so now the ‘nudge technique’ is employed. Grace Lavery’s biog blurb says:

When people refer to me, they use the pronouns "she," "her," and "hers”.

english.berkeley.edu/faculty_books/228[/quote]
Do we know what nouns they use?

This person does not.

Grace Lavery has made a Twitter post about the choice of photos used in that article. Commentary would probably be inadvisable but like Grace, I think the post stands on its own. Enjoy.

twitter.com/graceelavery/status/1330183026563837952

Grace is married to a trans man called Daniel. I like Daniel’s agony aunt column in Slate.

The thing is:
Daniel looks a lot like the woman Grace is trying to mock in that photo collage.

You can only look that way if you change your pronouns, I guess.

The misogyny isn’t even self aware.

I wonder how employable the students are after 3 years at Berkeley? I believe some employers aren't employing those from the most woke establishments (except in Tech of course).

I really think I’m getting a quite different message from those two pictures than the one I assume Grace is driving at. Awkward. Off to the re education camp with me.

I think that Grace Lavery’s thread is not doing quite what they anticipated. Their followers are doing a great job showing up the superficiality and self absorption.

Grace is married to a trans man called Daniel

fuck me. straight couple appropriates gay culture

I can't see the times article. Is it still there? I get a page not found message.

Does this work picklemewalnuts ?

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/4a620e6e-2b5f-11eb-b054-8dc1447a1be1?shareToken=085711c118c1d14d056a94b5b8a545fb

The article is back up. Took them a while. Now I have to read it.

@BernardBlackMissesLangCleg

Grace is married to a trans man called Daniel

fuck me. straight couple appropriates gay culture

It just seems like pure homophobia to me.

Lavery's twitter is rather heavy on the agp validation theme. Really seems to need it.

Back on Blackwells £17.71 free postage blackwells.co.uk/bookshop/product/9781684510313?gC=5a105e8b&gclid=Cj0KCQiAwf39BRCCARIsALXWETxNKI1tb6cmczABMUxx-AwP2cQccG8F99es17MQmJxHsAZ4XsWlpQ0aAqWsEALw_wcB

Picked this up on Reddit.

www.reddit.com/r/detrans/comments/k12uwj/bbc_documentary_looking_for_uk/

Fox man is going to have a fit!

@DaisiesandButtercups

The comments underneath this article are really fantastic, they are really getting to the point.

I like the very reasonable commenter who was peaked by asking reasonable questions and getting the typical responses we have come to expect.

Jo March is not on Twitter she says but the issue arrived in her work place. I wonder what she does for a living...

This is exactly what happened to me!

You assume when you first hear about self-ID that it can't actually be right - that there must be some mechanism to prevent it being abused. Then you realise - no there isn't!

For those on twitter, this is a good counter to the activist argument that Irreversible Damage is misinformed and all the other arguments I have seen about it lately.

twitter.com/will_malone/status/1337280097724723202?s=21

There have been a few regular male posters who have lately posted about how ‘bad’ this book is. I doubt they have read it and instead rely on other activists opinion (who probably haven’t read it either). It is a bit like the Troubled Blood furore.

Hopefully more doctors and clinicians will come forward and back up the findings in the book.