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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Health Education England - How to be a trans ally

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Iamanaubergine · 19/11/2020 09:41

HEE have released a document for transgender awareness week on how to be a trans ally. The majority of which is perfectly reasonable however the final point is about supporting a trans person’s choice of bathroom and includes If we are going to continue as a society to reinforce the use of male/female toilets (is that what we all do at home?) then trans people should be able to use the facility that corresponds with their gender identity.

The conflation between toilets at home and outside of the home really annoys me. How would you go about challenging this?
www.hee.nhs.uk/sites/default/files/documents/How%20to%20be%20a%20trans%20ally%20%283%29.pdf

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AbsintheFriends · 19/11/2020 13:08

That's a good point about hotels eyesopening I never lock my bedroom door at home, so perhaps I shouldn't bother when I stay in a hotel. What could possibly go wrong?

I wonder if any social historians have ever researched how many women were sexual assaulted in shared public privies before indoor bathrooms were the norm? I bet it wasn't only the comfort of not having to trek outside in the cold that made many women glad of a private bathroom inside the house.

Iamhangingin · 19/11/2020 13:14

We are very lucky to have 2 loos in my house and (as I'm sure is the same in many households) by unspoken agreement the boy in our household uses one and ladies the other. We all like having our own space!

LajesticVantrashell · 19/11/2020 13:43

I'm more concerned that the NHS are encouraging people to call out bigotry online. It smacks of encouragement to blindly follow the screaming loud narrative without applying any critical thinking.

Motnight · 19/11/2020 16:46

Op do you work for HEE? I do and am considering responding to the statement that they made.

Eowynthewarrior · 19/11/2020 16:57

If they only cared as much about being a blind, deaf, autistic, aneorexia, cancer, ms, arthritis, bi polar, wheelchair user, epilepsy Parkinson’s ally I am sure a lot of lives of people with disability might be easier. Awareness of the challenges people face might help. It’s like there is only one trendy protected characteristic

Iamanaubergine · 19/11/2020 17:03

@Motnight No I don’t work for HEE although found my way to this policy after seeing a job advertised (which I was interested in). There was a section in the job ad that made me dig deeper into the organisation and made me reconsider applying.

The section was this (spot what’s missing): We strive to ensure that no individual receives less favourable treatment on the grounds of their gender identity, sexual orientation, disability, religion or belief, colour, race, ethnicity, national origin, age, pregnancy and maternity, marital or civil partnership status, transgender status, HIV status, social background, trade union membership or non-membership and is placed at a disadvantage by requirements or conditions that cannot be shown to be justifiable.

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fatblackcatspaw · 19/11/2020 17:16

wow....

ThatIsNotMyUsername · 19/11/2020 17:19

F’idiots

Motnight · 19/11/2020 17:28

Oh lordy. That statement is terrible.

Deliriumoftheendless · 19/11/2020 17:28

I don’t let strangers use my bathroom.

I don’t let strangers sleep in my bed.

I don’t let strangers eat in my kitchen.

I don’t let strangers in to use my house phone.

I’m not changing that just because public toilets, hotel rooms, restaurants and phone boxes exist.

Duckwit · 19/11/2020 17:33

How the fuck could an NHS organisation use the 'you let men use your toilet at home don't you?' argument?

What the actual fuuuuuuucccckkk?!

Facefullofcake · 19/11/2020 17:35

My loo at home is single sex because only women (inc workers, friends, tradespeople) are invited into my home, and I live alone.

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