Event for UN’s Day for the Elimination of VAW

[WhatsthetruthRuth]

‘Created Forum’ have organised a day of speakers in honour of the UN’s Day for the Elimination of Violence Against Women. It’s a ‘virtual’ event and their website states:

‘On the day some of the most successful and inspiring women from all walks of life will share their stories. We have assembled women from the highest levels of business, wellness, fashion, media, science and technology - leaders in their field.‘

There’s a good cross section of well-known women including Jess Phillips, Baroness Scotland, Lynne Franks and Joan Collins (Tara Newly, Joan Collins’ daughter is a co-founder of the forum) with a variety of backgrounds. And there’s Juno Dawson (one of only 2 writers/novelists) And a Welsh transgender model and ‘wellness’ person called Dani St James. I was surprised to see Dani but I recognised them from the programme First Dates where she ‘surprised’ her date by being a transwoman. They came across well on the programme and definitely have what I believe some transgender people call ‘passing privilege’. Now apart from the modelling Dani has founded something called ‘Not a Phase’ and has produced stickers and trans affirming T-shirts (Juno was wearing one at Trans Pride this year) The T-shirt sales led to her setting up a charity earlier this year (charity status is still ‘pending‘ according to theor website) They gave some of the proceeds to Mermaids and hope to raise further money to run ‘workshops’ and ‘training’ but it doesn’t look as if much has happened yet - early days though.

But mainly it seems they do modelling and a bit of social media influencing capitalising on their profile after their appearance on First Dates - the attached photo is one from their Instagram account.

This will probably be an interesting event but I can’t see how someone who is basically an Instagram model gets a look-in as a ‘leader in their field’ or as one of the ‘most successful and inspiring women’. I applaud the fact that they want to support the work of other trans charities but I feel they’ve been shoe-horned into this event because it seems compulsory to have trans representation at all women’s events.

Do you think it’s come to a point now where every event that is organised around women’s issues such as, in this instance campaigning against (male?) violence, HAS to include a transwoman? Would there be an uproar from somewhere if it didn’t?

I'm short, yes.

*In short though I am quite short

"In case of emergency: break this hymen."

And this from someone speaking about Violence Against Women.

🤮

Totally irrelevant but doyoumind that made me spit my tea 🤣

I can't find it, but somewhere on Twitter there was an excellent flow chart about holding an event, that went something like are you male, organising an event about males = crack on.

If it was about women, and run by women, it got very, very much more complicated.

Probably worthwhile to look up Juno Dawson too. Most of us won’t have much in common with JD either...

Likes being a ‘hole’.

And yes - JD’s books are in schools...

As an aside, I have noticed that transgender women are found in leadership positions about feminism far beyond their population numbers while transgender men are not.

It's odd how sexism or at least sex differences are so evident in the trans movement and its impact. It is the female biological sex which is being erased in health articles, never the male biological sex.

We are soon going to get used to 'men and uterus-havers,' 'men and individuals with a cervix', 'men and menstruators.' Because those paired terms have the same type of basic definition, i.e., they do refer to the biological sexes.

Of course. Even though violent that direction has different reasons I’d guess.

Sunlight.

@MNHQ I was thinking of reporting the above personal and vicious attack but instead I am asking you to leave it. I think seeing what people say is important.

@Wrongsideofhistorymyarse

Sunlight.

Would report wrong

But i appreciate that some people prefer to leave that sort of post by DPP standing

[quote WorkingItOutAsIGo]@MNHQ I was thinking of reporting the above personal and vicious attack but instead I am asking you to leave it. I think seeing what people say is important.[/quote]
Too late working

Was particularly foul though

Yes OTOH I am glad it has been deleted, on the other it is good to see the kind of words used to attack someone for raising a question about how this event should be represented.

For the record, I view someone with the kind of photo pictured at the top of this thread as wholly unsuitable for an event about VAWAG. I grew up seeing those images as completely anti women and anti women’s interests. For example, I wouldn’t want to see Samantha Fox or Linda Lusardi (however lovely they might be) fronting up this kind of event as I would view the kind of images they sold of themselves as responsible for men having a diminished and objectifying image of women.

It was a horrible post and it's the worst I've seen on this board for a while.

Unless these events make clear that it is Male VAW then I don't hold much hope for them. Obviously they don't know/can't say what a woman is and if they cannot name the perpetrators I can't see how they can hope to address it.

The OP was in November, so presume this event has already happened? Someone must have been searching to bump it back up the board.

Apologies, I should have checked.

I hadn't noticed this was a zombie thread. Do you think someone was searching their own name?

@Wrongsideofhistorymyarse

I hadn't noticed this was a zombie thread. Do you think someone was searching their own name?

Meybe

Maybe it was earthling

Things were different at the start of Joan Collins’ career but she is an odd choice for VAW; I guess the family connection.
Were things different in Novembef 2020? The photo in the op was posted with the title “in case of emergency: break this hymen”.