We are all bigots

[WootMoggie]

Google claims the definition of “bigot” has changed.

Old definition : A person who is intolerant towards those holding different opinions.

New definition: A person who is obstinately or unreasonably attached to a belief, opinion, or faction, especially one who is prejudiced against or antagonistic towards a person or people on the basis of their membership of a particular group.

See attached screenshots.

This new definition seems custom-designed to justify the calling any dissenting voices of the woke agenda “bigots”

At least people are talking about it: twitter.com/chadfelixg/status/1325533106045136897?s=21

Ok. Well I'm intolerant against anyone who is in the National Front.
Or a Tory for that matter.
I'm a terrible bigot.

I'm joking about Tories. Btw. Before there's a pile on.
I'm sure there must be some nice ones.

That definition makes all people who use the word T*RF bigots too.

Not quite sure that was the intention!

Oh dear. Given that 'religion or belief' is a protected characteristic, ...a person who is obstinately or unreasonably attached to a belief has just rendered equality law hopelessly bigoted.

Nonsensical wankery from people transparently determined to make everyone else adhere to their beliefs.

@DeKraai

That definition makes all people who use the word T*RF bigots too.

Not quite sure that was the intention!

It does seem to be a more accurate description of the people who dismiss gender critical peeps out of hand and label womens rights groups as hate groups with absolutely no evidence and attack people of a different opinion to them.

I don’t feel like I am either antagonistic or prejudiced towards anyone, I just don’t agree with their beliefs and want to preserve women’s rights.

If the shoe fits...

Well, the bigots who call us bigots are still bigots according to this definitions. More so, because they are definitely unreasonably attached to their bigotry.

I think you are reading far too much into this. The definition accords with those used by pretty much every dictionary. It says more about those who seem to see this as a personal attack on their own position on a subject that they see it as a specific attack on themselves.

By this definition, uttering the word bigot about someone - or even having the thought - makes you a bigot yourself, which effectively renders the word useless and unutterable.

Never mind; another freshly-couned epithet or three will be along in a minute!

Coined!

And if I judge someone for being a flat-earther, say, or a fake moon-landing conspiracy theorist, I'm the bigot? And I should respect their views and make room for them in the grown-up conversation instead of ignoring them?

Yeah, no, I'm a bigot alright. 🤷🏼‍♀️

I'm not interested in beliefs or opinions. I expect truth and reality. Woman = adult human female, that sort of thing. I knew I wasn't a bigot anyway but it's quite funny that there's a dictionary definition to confirm it.

There's a strong whiff of desperation in the path of the righteous, they can't get people to defer to nonsense with so called education, so the insults are being ramped up.

Prejudice is a preconceived idea not based on facts or experience. It's the facts and experience that have led to to my perspective on the law, not preconceived ideas. I didn't have any before learning the facts and experiencing the abuse for doing that.

I am obstinately wedded to the belief that the earth is round and hold strong prejudice against people who think it flat.

Therefore I'm a bigot.

@Moondust001

I think you are reading far too much into this. The definition accords with those used by pretty much every dictionary. It says more about those who seem to see this as a personal attack on their own position on a subject that they see it as a specific attack on themselves.

This

So please elucidate Quaagers and Moondust.

What is the "more" that is being said?

Moondust and Quaggars - Chambers dictionary makes no mention of antagonism or prejudice. These are emotive terms that have been tacked on by the Google definition. Maybe do a little checking before posting in future?

www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/bigotgate-gordon-brown-anniversary-gillian-duffy-transcript-full-read-1957274.html

A life long labour voter in ROCHDALE shares perfectly ordinary opinions with the labour PM who tells the whole world she's a bigot. In Rochdale, where they said the same thing to people trying to protect children from grooming gangs.

Since then Labours fixation with calling everyone bigot has escalated.

They can change the definition all they like, it still doesn't mean anything anymore.

It's been so overused by (supposed) adults having tantrums when people don't agree with them, that the word lost it's punch a long time ago. How many of us just roll our eyes whenever we see it thrown around now?

The revised definition seems to fit many transactivists and misogynists very well.
I think including mention of 'prejudice' in the definition is an improvement tbh. It clarifies that the position is taken regardless of evidence and objectivity.

If "woke" people think the word 'bigot' only applies to those who dissent from their views, without considering the reasons for that dissent .... well, there's quite clearly a word for them, isn't there?

Really interesting transcript Escape planning. She asked some difficult but on-point questions, Gordon actually gave some good answers, though not in a very 'listening' way. There was no reason he should have come out of that feeling that she was 'a bigoted woman'. She did ask about Eastern European immigrants which is the only piece that you could apply bigot to - but there should have been an interesting conversation to have about that rather than leaping to 'bigot'

My issue with this is the word "membership of a particular group."

It's semantics, but that to me donates a choice to join a group.

You have no choice if you are a woman. You have no choice over your race.
You have no choice over your disability.

Its debatable about religion as many would find it very hard to choose to leave and is often inextricably linked to racial groups.

I'm not a member of something. I AM a woman.

And what worries me more is how this could be used in law re hate speech etc. As they'd state that "TW are members of the group of women."

Although you could touché very easily and say well, you're obstinately sticking to your opinion....

TRAs are awful bigots by the new definition.