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BBC promoting bondage as a form of psychotherapy WTAF??!!

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hoodathunkit · 06/11/2020 12:21

Now I need to start by saying that I have no problem with consenting adults experimenting with bondage if all concerned grant enthusiastic consent.

I am however extremely concerned about the BBC providing a completely uncritical "news" feature about a "bodyworker" using tying people up as a form of psychotherapy.

The article, complete with video, is here

Swedish bodyworker Andy Buru has devised a therapeutic way of working with bondage to help people heal from trauma, burnout and other ailments.

Filmmakers: Ana González & Frederick Bernas
Commissioned by Griesham Taan

www.bbc.com/reel/playlist/spiritual-awakening?vpid=p08w4wb9

The BBC have form for promoting and giving uncritical endorsements to a variety of extremely dodgy "therapists" and this man, Andy Buru, is just the latest of a long and inglorious stream of quacks to be endorsed by the BBC.

I took some time to check out his credentials and, unsurprisingly, he is an enthusiast of "tantra", BDSM, and various quack therapies that aim to heal trauma and recover memories trapped in the body via the usual unorthodox methods used by people of his ilk.

I find this combination of sexual practices (always the "practitioners" claim it is not sexual), psychotherapy and recovered memory therapy to be dangerous on a number of levels.

Some further links about Mr Buru via the archive, should readers be interested

<a class="break-all" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20200808150439/andyburu.se/about-andy/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">web.archive.org/web/20200808150439/andyburu.se/about-andy/

<a class="break-all" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20201105153036/andyburu.se/2020/02/25/bdsm-and-bodywork/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">web.archive.org/web/20201105153036/andyburu.se/2020/02/25/bdsm-and-bodywork/

<a class="break-all" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20201105155059if_/andyburu.se/2020/09/08/ritual-the-surrendered-masculine/" rel="nofollow" target="blank">web.archive.org/web/20201105155059if/andyburu.se/2020/09/08/ritual-the-surrendered-masculine/

<a class="break-all" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20200811070948/school.andyburu.se/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">web.archive.org/web/20200811070948/school.andyburu.se/

<a class="break-all" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20201105154102if_/www.facebook.com/events/469248467353504/" rel="nofollow" target="blank">web.archive.org/web/20201105154102if/www.facebook.com/events/469248467353504/

The heartbreaking thing about the BBC's endorsement of this man is that he is offering his "therapy" services to people who have experienced trauma and specifically sexual trauma.

I know from horrific personal experience that once a vulnerable person has survived sexual trauma, they are at increased risk of experiencing such trauma again.

People who have endured and survived sexual violations need proper therapy and support, not some new age quack therapy that may put them at risk of involvement with predators and sex cults.

Shame on you BBC

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FeedTheSparrows · 06/11/2020 12:47

Christ on a bike. I see it is on an outlet owned by BBC Global though and therefore 'no money from the licence fee was used to create this website'.

Not that it makes it any better that they are validating this man - but at least it isn't on the mainstream, publicly funded bit of the BBC.

Abitofalark · 06/11/2020 13:57

My first thought was that this would be on BBC3, for 'the youth'. Naughty me making assumptions.
It's always fascinating to discover yet more BBC tentacles and ponder the relationship between the public funding licence fee which enables the BBC and the BBC's ownership of a commercial global news company, even though no money from the licence fee went into the making of this. Perhaps that should be global 'news' company promoting weird stuff.

ThoughtfulPerson67 · 16/02/2021 20:43

I’m afraid - on the evidence of the BBC clip - I completely disagree. The women interviewed here, at least, seem to have found something very profound they need - however strange you may find it. They speak thoughtfully, and rather movingly, about what works for them. This seems to be about healing - and who could be against that? I thank the BBC for showing us something profoundly human, difficult, strange and true.

Merle1 · 16/04/2021 22:01

If you have never been tied up by a non-sexual body worker you can’t possibly understand how it feels. It remains one of the most incredible experiences I’ve had.

What I discovered by being tied up was that I was able to deeply relax in what felt like a peaceful, binding hug. I felt safe and cared for. I didn’t have to do anything or think anything. No schedules or timetables or deadlines for my kids to think about. I could just submit to the ropes and allow the chatter of my mind to go quiet. A strange paradox of containment and escapism.

For many people, being bound in ropes can be a meditative, healing and/or spiritual experience.

Open your mind. Not everything is about sex.

Merle1 · 16/04/2021 22:05

In addition, I now tie myself up to achieve this feeling of compression and the parasympathetic response on my own. It’s meditative to tie. It’s meditative to be tied.

CousinKrispy · 17/04/2021 00:05
Ereshkigalangcleg · 17/04/2021 00:05
Hmm
transbadger · 17/04/2021 00:09

Temple Grandin likes to be squashed in a cattle box.

CousinKrispy · 17/04/2021 00:28

You're right, temple Brandon has spoken about her "squeeze box" and it is very interesting.

CousinKrispy · 17/04/2021 00:37

Grandin FFS!

PotholeHellhole · 17/04/2021 01:23

I would recommend that people pondering such therapies consider a weighted blanket instead. It's less likely to get tangled in the washing machine than ropes, and it will be easier to get up in a hurry to answer the door to receive any unexpected parcels.

Good Housekeeping reviewed a selection here.
www.goodhousekeeping.com/home-products/blanket-reviews/a24734005/best-weighted-blankets/

WombOfOnesOwn · 17/04/2021 02:13

"She was asking for it" is now just good woke ideology.

Doyoumind · 17/04/2021 02:26

ZOMBIE

The, astonishing thing here is that Merle didn't just arrive here newly from Google but posted once before, in 2019, about missing a birthday card on cbeenies Confused

Sophoclesthefox · 17/04/2021 07:23

@Doyoumind

ZOMBIE

The, astonishing thing here is that Merle didn't just arrive here newly from Google but posted once before, in 2019, about missing a birthday card on cbeenies Confused

For some reason that’s really tickled me 🤣

So did potholes point about being able to get up to answer the door 🤣

I think I’ll stick to my headspace app for all my meditative requirements.

Helleofabore · 17/04/2021 12:37

[quote PotholeHellhole]I would recommend that people pondering such therapies consider a weighted blanket instead. It's less likely to get tangled in the washing machine than ropes, and it will be easier to get up in a hurry to answer the door to receive any unexpected parcels.

Good Housekeeping reviewed a selection here.
www.goodhousekeeping.com/home-products/blanket-reviews/a24734005/best-weighted-blankets/[/quote]
yes. nothing like a delivery person to ruin that meditative moment is there!

My concern though is, what happens if you cannot get yourself untied? How does that work?

PotholeHellhole · 17/04/2021 12:48

Actually, Stephen King wrote a book about the worst-case scenario, called Gerald's Game.

Having reminded myself of that, I think I'll definitely plump for the blanket option.

RufustheSniggeringReindeer · 17/04/2021 20:07

[quote PotholeHellhole]I would recommend that people pondering such therapies consider a weighted blanket instead. It's less likely to get tangled in the washing machine than ropes, and it will be easier to get up in a hurry to answer the door to receive any unexpected parcels.

Good Housekeeping reviewed a selection here.
www.goodhousekeeping.com/home-products/blanket-reviews/a24734005/best-weighted-blankets/[/quote]
You need to get one of those ring doorbells

Than you can just yell

‘I can’t get to the door...im a bit tied up’

Boom boom

LangClegsInSpace · 17/04/2021 20:27

@ThoughtfulPerson67

I’m afraid - on the evidence of the BBC clip - I completely disagree. The women interviewed here, at least, seem to have found something very profound they need - however strange you may find it. They speak thoughtfully, and rather movingly, about what works for them. This seems to be about healing - and who could be against that? I thank the BBC for showing us something profoundly human, difficult, strange and true.
I don't find it strange at all, I find it all too FUCKING familiar.

There's nothing 'profound' about this, it's Brian from Hull with better PR. The BDSM 'community' is creepy, manipulative and abusive.

'who could be against that?'

Me. I'm against this shit being sold to women as 'healing'.

JoodyBlue · 17/04/2021 20:38

[quote PotholeHellhole]I would recommend that people pondering such therapies consider a weighted blanket instead. It's less likely to get tangled in the washing machine than ropes, and it will be easier to get up in a hurry to answer the door to receive any unexpected parcels.

Good Housekeeping reviewed a selection here.
www.goodhousekeeping.com/home-products/blanket-reviews/a24734005/best-weighted-blankets/[/quote]
Grin indeed. I have a lovely weighted blanket, the being heldness, without the weirdness, perfect! They are a bit pricier than a rope sadly.

picklemewalnuts · 17/04/2021 20:51

There is something about containment that is relaxing- it was used in attachment therapy, imagine your struggling, over tired toddler thrashing about in your arms until they finally relax and sob and go to sleep.

I don't however think any individual, particularly an opposite sexed individual, can safely perform that role. I think the dynamic is almost inevitably an abuse of power. Traditional therapist have to be incredibly alert to interrupt that kind of dynamic.

EmbarrassingAdmissions · 17/04/2021 23:59

I have a lovely weighted blanket,

I've been havering about one for ages (insomnia v. the price Shock ). If you're in the UK, do you recommend a particular brand, please?

MWMWMW · 18/04/2021 00:20

@EmbarrassingAdmissions

I have a lovely weighted blanket,

I've been havering about one for ages (insomnia v. the price Shock ). If you're in the UK, do you recommend a particular brand, please?

I’ve not bought a weighted blanket from here, but have used this site and was happy with the product/service... weighted blankets seem very reasonably priced...

www.onlinehomeshop.com/catalogsearch/result/?q=Weighted

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