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Is Lewis Hamilton GC?!

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KatyaZamolodchikova · 03/11/2020 21:59

DH just asked me if I saw Lewis Hamilton’s t shirt at the weekend.

Women’s rights are Human Rights

Science is Real

Has Lewis come out as Gender Critical? I thought the phrasing was particularly interesting following the TRA’s Trans Rights are Human Rights mantra. And Science is Real. And biology is science right?

With the platform he’s got and has already given to the BLM movement could this be more daylight?

Is Lewis Hamilton GC?!
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ClarenceBoddicker · 04/11/2020 00:55

If they seem to really have some knowledge about something I agree Gerbil and do understand why the UN likes to employ famous ambassadors as gets attention but I hope they educate them as well about what they’re representing.

It’s clear many don’t are just dumb and do it for attention and jump on anything fashionable. The same people who end up apologising a few years later for a faux pas.

I still can’t get over Merryl Streep trying to convince people she had no clue about Harvey Weinstein even though the majority of Hollywood said they heard the rumours. Plus gave Roman Polanski a standing ovation when he was a convicted paedophile. I think the convicted part is important here as well

NiceGerbil · 04/11/2020 01:02

Clarence sure but I suspect he picked it up based on the first line mainly

Black lives matter

Which seems like a more than reasonable statement for him to support

So I don't think this falls into the virtue signalling camp either tbh

BoomBoomsCousin · 04/11/2020 01:03

I doubt Lewis Hamilton has been outed as anything other than a Biden voter (or, at least, someone who wants his fans to think he's a Biden voter).

In the US "Science is real" is a hat tip towards environmentalism (and generally anti-trump) not GC feminism.

Women's rights are human rights was the go-to feminist mantra in the states quite recently and was used by Clinton in her presidential campaign against Trump. More recently we tend to see "Trans rights are human rights" and "Feminism is for everyone" instead but it's not an entirely "cancelled" phrase.

NiceGerbil · 04/11/2020 01:06

Oh lord or whoopie Goldberg and her comment about Polanski that it wasn't 'rape rape'.

If drugging and sodomising an underage teen isn't rape then I mean really, wtf is.

However thinking on all those stars. I have wondered. You know that thing where women/ victims of sex offences minimise it because it's a way of dealing with it? All those women who supported him, I did wonder. But then again they could have just kept their mouths shut...

Anyway off topic.

I've got zero feelings of that type about LH wearing a BLM t-shirt. I also wouldn't read too much into the other bits written!

ClarenceBoddicker · 04/11/2020 01:19

I’m sure as black man he is anti racist and thinks black lives matter but hasn’t looked into the political organisation of the same name (kept on autocorrecting to caps which tells me something when trying to write those three words).

As an almost unashamedly Marxist movement I’m not sure if these super rich superstar black celebrities understand what would be in store for them if they go their way.

Before they changed their mission statement at least half of it was devoted to Trans issues as well which I doubt the likes of Jay Z would have been aware of given this song lyrics. No Cristal popping or hoe chat with them

ClarenceBoddicker · 04/11/2020 01:23

BLM finally got rid of it from their website because they got worried they would be sussed. I don’t consider it a real black led organisation anyway and has been hijacked by the usual political far left crew who always like to jump on and take over. There are plenty of black civil rights groups who have jumped ship and said left white people have co-opted it

ClarenceBoddicker · 04/11/2020 01:26

Here’s the text I was taking the piss out. I’m sure many of these causes are noble but seems to be a bit of mission creep from the late comers who jumped on to them.

We are guided by the fact that all Black lives matter, regardless of actual or perceived sexual identity, gender identity, gender expression, economic status, ability, disability, religious beliefs or disbeliefs, immigration status, or location.

We make space for transgender brothers and sisters to participate and lead.

We are self-reflexive and do the work required to dismantle cisgender privilege and uplift Black trans folk, especially Black trans women who continue to be disproportionately impacted by trans-antagonistic violence.

We build a space that affirms Black women and is free from sexism, misogyny, and environments in which men are centered.

We practice empathy. We engage comrades with the intent to learn about and connect with their contexts.

We make our spaces family-friendly and enable parents to fully participate with their children. We dismantle the patriarchal practice that requires mothers to work “double shifts” so that they can mother in private even as they participate in public justice work.

We disrupt the Western-prescribed nuclear family structure requirement by supporting each other as extended families and “villages” that collectively care for one another, especially our children, to the degree that mothers, parents, and children are comfortable.

We foster a queer‐affirming network. When we gather, we do so with the intention of freeing ourselves from the tight grip of heteronormative thinking, or rather, the belief that all in the world are heterosexual (unless s/he or they disclose otherwise).

We cultivate an intergenerational and communal network free from ageism. We believe that all people, regardless of age, show up with the capacity to lead and learn.

We embody and practice justice, liberation, and peace in our engagements with one another.

Butterer · 04/11/2020 01:30

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ClarenceBoddicker · 04/11/2020 01:40

It’s difficult to know. They’re not the most open organisation as to who’s behind them. You can find plenty of stuff online but the major and most dependable media have stayed clear so you’re left with a load of minor pressure groups your never heard of them. Many will be far right types trying to discredit them for their own ends so not linking to spurious sources which might have their own nefarious motives. But they’re not a completely open organisation for sure.

The post I made above came from none of that. It was on the official BLM website until a month ago and made up more than half of their mission statement. Was written by themselves

ClarenceBoddicker · 04/11/2020 01:48

I might be wrong about the latecomers accusation as was apparently started by queer Black women so a lot of the stuff o quoted was probably baked in from the very start

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ClarenceBoddicker · 04/11/2020 02:11

They did a good job of removing the old website though as impossible to find but am not great at IT. To be clear this came straight from the website I viewed with my one eyes and wasn’t linked to from somewhere else. Only have the text as was flabbergasted and WhatApped to it a black friend who I had a debate with earlier saying look at this WTF. Must be a way of getting to the original site as everybody is cached but google doesn’t come up with much so they did a good clean up job.

Wish I had the whole statement so not to cherry pick. Did start with examples of people being killed abs police mistreatment but the second bit I posted made up at least half which seems disproportionate

NiceGerbil · 04/11/2020 02:16

Well sure but I definitely don't think that the vast majority of people who use the BLM words to express how they feel are even aware it's an org whether it has dodgy aims or not.

It's a statement and a rallying call. Is what most people will see it as. And I think that's ok TBH.

ClarenceBoddicker · 04/11/2020 02:25

I don’t mind ‘far’ left groups per se whether they’re socialists, communists, trots etc. Will disagree with them them and be happy to have a debate on honest terms.

Some of those people I like to go to and fro with are people I like, respectful or and a smaller contingent are friends.

But there’s a lot of others who won’t openly do so as wouldn’t get a majority from the general public on those terms so hijack other movements. Extinction Rebellion is full of them as well. It’s like rather than join the Socialist Worksrs Party who’s star no longer stands brightly let’s join the more popular environmental and anti racism groups instead.

Momentum could have started their own party as well if they wanted to but tried to steal the Labour party

ClarenceBoddicker · 04/11/2020 02:27

I’d just like to say by the way that black lives do matter. Just not a fan of the BLM trademark group

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GingerScallop · 04/11/2020 03:04

ClarenceBoddicker you are so correct about the great credence given to celebs. Many now jump on these issues to boost their profiles. Many people don't even realize several celebs are paid to be ambassadors of various causes. Or cost the charities a lot of money to help promote their causes. This is never publicised, they simply are lauded as saints. Even those that do it for free get so much mileage and career returns out of it. And DeCaprio is just ridiculous.
We need to celebrate true heroes that work nose to the grindstone. Not celebrities with photo op obsessions, wearing $10000 outfits to global poverty events, or talking about the environment from one of their many mega mansions before flying off to the X th holiday of the year on exotic island Y

Goosefoot · 04/11/2020 03:13

Most of those statements are pretty empty as part of a list on a t-shirt.

Basically it's a bunch of thought ending cliches.

waitrosetrollydolly · 04/11/2020 03:27

The man is taking advertising to extremes.'at be he thinks he's a billboard?

ClarenceBoddicker · 04/11/2020 03:29

Pleased you agree Ginger. Harry formerly known as Prince is making a good effort to become the greatest one. On the way to making a cool 50 million a year all the name in of charidy. Far more than he’d ever have as a mere spare. I suppose he does have expenses for cover now but there’s levels

ClarenceBoddicker · 04/11/2020 03:34

Harry and Meghan did the Di Caprio private jet triick whilst campaigning against climate change simultaneously. And even better turning any criticism of it into being victim of racism. Lol. Not disputing that they haven’t had some knuckle head abuse from some racists btw

Thehollyandtheirony · 04/11/2020 18:58

I’m curious about this too. I saw a similar set of statements (including ‘Women’s Rights Are Human Rights’) on the Instagram stories of the gardener Laetitia Maklouf. Not quite the same level of fame Grin but it jumped out at me because previously I’ve always seen ‘Black Lives Matter’ coupled up with ‘Trans Rights Are Human Rights’

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