Johnny Depp loses libel case against The Sun

[RoyalCorgi]

I think this is probably a good thing for those of us who campaign against domestic violence:

www.theguardian.com/film/2020/nov/02/johnny-depp-loses-libel-case-against-sun-over-claims-he-beat-ex-wife-amber-heard

[ChazsBrilliantAttitude]

JKR couldn’t sack him on the basis of rumours and an article in the Sun. That could have resulted in legal action from him if there were already contracts in place as well as potentially huge wasted costs on the production if it got snarled up in a legal mess.
Now the position is different. I would imagine she is discussing with lawyers what to do.

I think the JD /AH relationship was toxic. However, there is no excuse for his behaviour nor should anyone attempt to justify it.

I expect he will check himself into rehab next!

[AvocadoBathroom]

Also at the time hadn't Amber Heard been accused of hitting an ex and also she had said she wanted to put the rift behind her? JK was acting in good faith that both parties were writing it off and I'd imagine if she had thought it would wrangle out into more accusations etc a different outcome might have happened.

[SheepandCow]

I wouldn't normally recommend the sun but their article yesterday is well worth a read. Details numerous incidents of serious violence.

It's crystal clear. Johnny Depp is a violent wife-beater.

www.thesun.co.uk/news/13090761/johnny-depp-amber-heard-12-viocious-attacks/

[SheepandCow]

And this:
www.thesun.co.uk/news/13090441/johnny-depp-libel-case-wife-beater/

From the article:
Lisa King, of Refuge, said: “This is an important ruling and one which we hope sends a very ­powerful message: A common tactic used by perpetrators of domestic abuse is to repeatedly tell victims that no-one will believe them - and to use power and control to try and silence them

What we have seen today is power, fame and financial resources cannot be used to silence women.”

Nicki Norman, chief executive of Women’s Aid, said: “The allegations of domestic abuse against Johnny Depp were extremely serious.

Everyone who has experienced domestic abuse deserves to be listened to and believed.

This also applies to survivors who do not fit the image of the "perfect victim" - and regardless of the high profile of the alleged abuser

There is no excuse for domestic abuse

[ClarenceBoddicker]

Even if he ‘won’ he’d still have lost given all the dirt which came out on him. I’m still not 100% on board with Amber’s account but seems plausible in itself. Didn’t come out of it well because of other stuff. Libel cases are extremely difficult to win so was a fools errand. Was basically arguing that he didn’t hit her punch her in the face as reported but did abuse her only differently

[ClarenceBoddicker]

I also believe she was abusive to him as well but wasn’t the point of the case

[SheepandCow]

@ClarenceBoddicker

I also believe she was abusive to him as well but wasn’t the point of the case

Be careful not to libel her...

Allegations about Amber are unproven.
Btw it's a very common abuser tactic to make (false) counter allegations. Very well-known.

You have no idea of the context of anything you might have heard about through third hand information.

Given what we now know about Johnny Depp's years of domestic abuse against Amber, it's reasonable to assume anything she might have done was self defence- or Battered Wife Syndrome.

What's very clear is that Johnny Depp is a (proven in a court of law) violent domestic abuser. He is a proven wife-beater.

[mangoesforever]

What about the recording of her saying "I can't promise never to be violent I get so mad I just lose it". How can you say she wasn't violent - that recording is littered with confessions that clearly weren't 'self defence'. It's not a black and white case!

[IwishNothingButTheBestForYou2]

What's very clear is that Johnny Depp is a (proven in a court of law) violent domestic abuser. He is a proven wife-beater.

Yep.

[QuentinWinters]

What about the recording of her saying "I can't promise never to be violent I get so mad I just lose it". How can you say she wasn't violent - that recording is littered with confessions that clearly weren't 'self defence'. It's not a black and white case!
Noone said she wasn't. They said it isn't proven. What's happened to innocent until proven guilty? Or does that only apply to men charged with sex assaults?

[Annasgirl]

And still his defenders pop up. Really only soft, feminine, submissive women are supported when DV accusations occur - and even then, some on here would probably go "but she......"

[ChazsBrilliantAttitude]

He has been dropped from Fantastic Beasts
Johnny Depp leaves Fantastic Beasts film franchise www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-54846285

[SheepandCow]

That's good news ChazsBrilliantAttitude

I love Harry Potter but have avoided everything to do with Fantastic Beasts. His involvement put me right off.

[DownThePlath]

@QuentinWinters
Well she quite clearly is guilty of hitting him. She's admitted to it in several recordings

[QuentinWinters]

Its not been proven in court and unfounded allegations like that ruin lives.
Innocent until proven guilty and we can't speculate on her behaviour until a court has found her guilty
It might look damning in the media but you only hear one side of the story and if she did do something it was clearly provoked by him and how he was behaving

[SheepandCow]

@QuentinWinters

Its not been proven in court and unfounded allegations like that ruin lives.
Innocent until proven guilty and we can't speculate on her behaviour until a court has found her guilty
It might look damning in the media but you only hear one side of the story and if she did do something it was clearly provoked by him and how he was behaving

Yes. It's also worth remember that it's very common for abusers to make counter allegations. And, any unproven allegations (about what is likely self defence or Battered Wife Syndrome - given the details of his violent abuse) could be seen as libel.

[Thewithesarehere]

I think JK Rowling in on Mumsnet.

[EarthSight]

From what I've read about the case, they both sound like twats to me.

[EarthSight]

@Thewithesarehere

I think JK Rowling in on Mumsnet.

Yep. I think she's here too, even if she doesn't have an account.

[EarthSight]

[quote ChazsBrilliantAttitude]He has been dropped from Fantastic Beasts
Johnny Depp leaves Fantastic Beasts film franchise www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-54846285[/quote]
@chazsbrilliantattitude

[AgnesNaismith]

If JK is here, does anyone have any idea who could replace the twat?

David Tennant?

[IwishNothingButTheBestForYou2]

Danielle Ratcliffe?

[Thewithesarehere]

@AgnesNaismith

If JK is here, does anyone have any idea who could replace the twat?

David Tennant?

David T!! Yes that could work so well. But I do wonder if James Bond franchise has a point.
Can we please have someone who is not the obvious choice? but is an excellent actor. Jason Bateman, Sam Heughan or someone of that calibre.
I am so tired of seeing lazy and tired casting. Do some experiments Hollywood/JK Rowling! Give us someone different and refreshing.

[jakeyboy1]

The abuse Amber is getting is awful tho whatever people may think she did or didn't do, he was the one who lost a case. And people like Sharon Osborne trying to normalise the behaviour - fuck off!

[ClarenceBoddicker]

I didn’t mean to libel her but if what I did constitutes that then there must be a whole load of libel on here. Even Johnny now hasn’t been convicted of anything. But did lose a case against a party he said libelled him. My comments were based on gossip and other news stories unrelated to Depp like we all go off. There are public records involving police. None of us know them personally so can’t exactly be certain personally.