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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Suzanne Moore on miscarriage & the importance of language

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greyinganddecaying · 26/10/2020 17:58

Suzanne on the money as usual.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/oct/26/we-need-to-talk-about-miscarriage-and-the-language-we-use-really-matters

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TanteRose · 27/10/2020 06:08

great article, Suzanne Flowers

RoyalCorgi · 27/10/2020 09:19

It's a really powerful article that speaks to all of us. It's good to see so many women sharing their experiences and empathising on Suzanne's thread.

I notice a delightful person called NO PRISON SHIPS has responded thus:

"I'm not going to tweet the Suzanne Moore article. I think it's time for me to stop reading the Guardian after so many years. It's been real, but - and I really, really mean this - fuck the lot of you, you bunch of massive terves."

I marvel at just how evil a person you have to be to write something like that in response to a woman taking about her profound experience loss and grief. I also marvel at how lacking in self-knowledge you must be not to understand how it looks to others.

merrymouse · 27/10/2020 10:53

Thank you again Suzanne Moore.

It should be possible to understand that people who suffer from dysphoria want to distance themselves from their bodies (and use appropriate language in specific situations that concern them), and also recognise that general enforcement of dissociative language policies is harmful.

Also well done to Kevin Price for questioning the catechism that leads to these policies:

www.spectator.co.uk/article/the-trans-debate-could-cost-this-cambridge-porter-his-job

MarieIVanArkleStinks · 27/10/2020 12:19

What enrages me is that we women had about a five-minute window when the world finally let us talk about miscarriage and stillbirth - and then the trans lobby comes to tell us we need to shut up and talk about it in a way that fits the needs of male-born people?? No fucking way.

Coming from SANDS it's the ultimate betrayal. As for the gestational parent recently in the news for trying to alter the legal status of a gestational parent, I believe it was a judge who reasonably pointed out that a person ceases to live as a man the day that person knowingly becomes pregnant: the most female-specific biological function known to humanity.

It's hardly reasonable in those circumstances to then claim you are triggered by hearing the word 'mother'.

If you're a mother who has been bereaved in such devastating circumstances, it matters a great deal.

Fuck them.

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