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'The rise and fall of Stonewall' Jo Bartosch article in Spiked

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Abitofalark · 23/10/2020 14:44

I've noticed several good articles recently by Jo Bartsosch in Spiked.

This one looks back at the history and development of the Stonewall involvement and influence up to and including recent the Alison Bailey case and other legal challenges and hopeful signs of change.

www.spiked-online.com/2020/10/23/the-rise-and-fall-of-stonewall/

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ChakaDakotaRegina · 24/10/2020 09:09

Thanks for this.

TheShoesa · 24/10/2020 09:48

Great article, thanks for sharing.

I've saved it for the next time someone asks me why I can't just be kind.

gardenbird48 · 24/10/2020 10:17

I sent this to a gay man as part of a conversation and he dismissed it as ‘conspiracy theory’. He feels that gay rights have reached such a good point that trans rights should now take precedence.

One day maybe he will actually read the article and check out some of the facts for himself and see that Stonewall has Arcus (run by a big pharmaceutical company) listed as a donor on their accounts and maybe he will wonder what else in the article is true. One day....

RozWatching · 24/10/2020 11:13

Great article. Jo Bartosch is brilliant.

"Take the case of lawyer Allison Bailey. Until two years ago, Bailey, a long-time LGB activist, thought that anything that could ‘make the lives of trans people easier… was a good thing’. But the more she began to look into and question the new trans activism, the more worried she became about the implications of replacing the concept of sex with the concept gender. She felt that it abolished the very basis of LGB rights — namely, same-sex attraction.

In 2019, as a result of her concerns, she co-founded the LGB Alliance, a group formed to advocate for the rights of lesbian, gay and bisexual people. On 22 October last year, she tweeted in support of the LGB Alliance. The problem for Bailey was that her employer, Garden Court Chambers, is a member of the Stonewall Diversity Champions programme. As a result, Bailey’s support for a group that challenges ‘current gender ideologies… [as] a threat to people whose sexual orientation is towards the same sex’ fell foul of Stonewall’s workplace guidance, prompting Garden Court Chambers to release a statement announcing that Bailey was now under investigation. Stonewall itself then submitted a complaint about Bailey to Garden Court Chambers, stating that unless her chambers took action against her, Stonewall’s relationship with it would be damaged.

As Bailey herself puts it: ‘This was an attempt by Stonewall to intimidate and silence me and others critical of what we see as its malign influence in British life.’ So Bailey is now suing Stonewall – an organisation originally founded to advance the rights of same-sex-attracted people like Bailey – to ‘stop them policing free speech’."

I think that says it all. 'Diversity champions' my arse.

Cabinfever10 · 24/10/2020 13:07

Wow that's a great article 👏

FindTheTruth · 24/10/2020 18:31

One of the clearest summaries of how we got into this mess. great article.

Mumfun · 24/10/2020 20:52

Really great article

PurpleHoodie · 25/10/2020 08:39
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MarDhea · 25/10/2020 09:27

It's a really good article but such a pity it's on Spiked Sad

That fact alone is enough to stop me sending it to some people because its presence on spiked will count against the credibility of the arguments in the article itself. That's what happens, unfortunately, when an outlet regularly publishes articles against climate change, pro Trump, etc. 🤮

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