The US is the 10th most dangerous country in the world for women.

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From here:

poll2018.trust.org

Bloody hell, that’s an eye opening link. Joint 3rd place with Syria for sexual violence!

Good grief! That's a shock. Pleased to see that the UK doesn't feature anywhere.

Wait until they repeal Roe v Wade in a couple years...

The US is fucked. Was reading earlier that social workers in Texas are now allowed to discriminate against (i.e. refuse service to) LGBT people or those with a disability. SOCIAL WORKERS.

Didn't the UN or some other body do a survey a while ago about global women's rights/issues and the US came very low indeed. I seem to recall a reporter asking American women where they thought they came in world rankings. Without exception they all thought either 1st or top few and were absolutely astonished to find out the reverse was true.
Some parts of the US are remarkably myopic and really don't have much of an idea about international matters. They have totally swallowed the rhetoric about how wonderful their country is.

I don’t think they are tenth when I think of places with current wars. But it’s just plain dangerous for everyone due to the power drunk police and out of control gun crime.

I don’t think they are tenth when I think of places with current wars.

It's a survey of opinions rather than an examination of real-world data. They surveyed a few hundred people and asked them to identify five countries, in ranked order as well as name one county that's they viewed as the most dangerous in each of six categories. I think it's a shame that they didn't conduct a basic geographical literacy test as part of the survey for each respondent.

So it's totally unfounded in anything except anecdote?

They asked the respondents how they rated various areas.

The survey is highlighting that after 'me too' etc, people perceived USA as more dangerous than in previous years.

There's no data involved. Disappointingly presented!

The respondents being "We contacted 548 experts focused on women’s issues including aid and development professionals, academics, health workers, policymakers, non-government organisation workers, journalists, and social commentators.".

South Africa's not on there with all the sexual violence. Nicaragua isn't with no legal abortion.

I'm not sure about this one...

Nonsense.

Another area in which American women score poorly is maternal mortality. In the 1950s the maternal death rate was the same in the UK and USA. Now there are 26.4 deaths per 100,000 live births there compared to 9.2 in the UK though we look pretty rubbish compared to Finland at 3.8. The American maternal mortality rate is three times higher than that of its neighbour, Canada.

In 2011, the UN described maternal mortality as a "human rights issue at the forefront of American healthcare". Race is a significant factor as are education and income. African American women are four times as likely to suffer from maternal morbidity and mortality.

Other tables put the UK at 7 on maternal deaths. All have Poland, Belarus, Iceland, Italy, Norway and Finland scoring best.

South Africa is 119 and Nicaragua 98.

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_maternal_mortality_ratio?wprov=sfla1

That maternal mortality list is terrifying. The breadth, from 2 to 1000+ maternal deaths per 100,000 births. A 1% chance of dying in some countries.

I’m quite shocked.

The methodology for this sucks. USA has a lot of work to do for a Western country but its placement in this table is nothing to do with actual relative risks women face. The USA only got placed in two of the categories - sexual violence and non-sexual violence. But on both those criteria if, instead of asking a bunch of "experts" for their opinion just after a scandal has broken, you look at the stats for percentage of women who are assaulted the USA is nowhere near the top 10.

All this ranking does is show us how much even experts are affected by media bias.

Now there are 26.4 deaths per 100,000 live births there compared to 9.2 in the UK though we look pretty rubbish compared to Finland at 3.8.

My inner (reluctant) statistician wants measures of statistical significance. When dealing with sample sizes that are as large as the ones here (all the women giving birth in country A in year YYYY) even down at the small number end of things, I think it's plausible that the difference between 9.2 and 3.8 is statistically significant, but I'd like to see the maths..
But it's shocking anyone would think "survey of what X no of experts thought off the tops of their heads" was a good way of approaching this" was a useful methodology - unless of course the point was to juxtapose this with "and here's the rankings we got when we combined the following objective measures" (which would be even more interesting if those objective measures were drawn from a list agreed upon by the experts, who were first asked for their subjective opinion - now that would be a fascinating exercise in the psychology of prejudice).

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Another area in which American women score poorly is maternal mortality. In the 1950s the maternal death rate was the same in the UK and USA. Now there are 26.4 deaths per 100,000 live births there compared to 9.2 in the UK though we look pretty rubbish compared to Finland at 3.8. The American maternal mortality rate is three times higher than that of its neighbour, Canada.

In 2011, the UN described maternal mortality as a "human rights issue at the forefront of American healthcare". Race is a significant factor as are education and income. African American women are four times as likely to suffer from maternal morbidity and mortality.

It always strikes me as somewhat hypocritical that so many in the USA want to force women to carry pregnancy to term with maternal mortality stats like this, no healthcare free at the point of delivery, no maternity leave, no realistic state support for single mothers. I don’t really get how the anti abortion lobby can argue that the reason they are anti abortion is because they care about babies rather than because they want to control women.

If you care about babies you absolutely need to care about their mothers.

Health care should always be driven by providing the best possible care for those accessing it and never by profit.