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The politicisation of Mumsnet

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Cismyfatarsey · 13/10/2020 21:05

www.eventbrite.co.uk/e/the-politicization-of-mumsnet-online-webinar-tickets-123449989241?ref=eios

Just saw this online. Worth attending? It is free.

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stumbledin · 13/10/2020 21:39

That should be interesting - but I suppose it depends a bit on how she has written up mumsnet.

Might be totallly aggravating.

I cant work out if there will be a Q&A at the end, or it is just to hear her talk about her book?

Other threads on this www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/4046664-Book-about-us-The-Politicisation-of-Munsnet-my-year-on-the-site which is about the book, and in that there are links to the article she wrote for FiLia

chilling19 · 13/10/2020 23:09

Met the author at FILIA and she was great. Looking forward to this, and the book

ScreamingBeans · 14/10/2020 00:09

My first thought is "Mumsnet has always been political".

Politics was ALWAYS discussed on here, long before biscuits.

Antibles · 14/10/2020 00:24

'The personal is the political'

DeRigueurMortis · 14/10/2020 00:49

Ok..so from the link:

* She argues that its openness to discussion around this subject has allowed the site to function as a subaltern counter-public - a space where gender-critical feminists have been able to share information and make plans for action and agitation.*

I confess I had to look up "subaltern" on Wikipedia:

In postcolonial theory, the term subaltern describes the lower social classes and the Other social groups displaced to the margins of a society; in an imperial colony, a subaltern is a native man or woman without human agency, as defined by his and her social status.

The aspect fundamentally disagree with is:

Professor Sarah Pedersen investigates the growing politicization of the online parenting forum Mumsnet and its use by politicians to influence middle-class women in the UK. The site's discussion topics go far beyond traditional 'mothering' subjects and encompass politics, feminism and current affairs.

I've been here a while and the site has for many years gone beyond "traditional" topics.

As for it's use by politicians....if they are influencing us then they are doing a poor effort. Just look at the threads where MP's came to answer questions....

Finally I'm absolutely fucked off with notion that as a mother and contributing poster to MN that I should stay in my lane and "just" talk about mothering.

Why do sites like pistonheads never get this much attention?

The threads there cover topics as wide as MN (and in some topics far more strident) but never get a mention for being a "hotbed" of thought.

Honestly it's bloody depressing and annoying.

Why the hell are we even discussing why women should not convergence and discuss women's issues that exist outside of motherhood?

Goosefoot · 14/10/2020 03:28

Where have people traditionally discussed politics? I think wherever groups gathered socially, or working together. So no wonder a place with a lot of women would include discussion of politics.

It is interesting that in part because of it's anonymity, it has been able to be a place for people to have discussions that seem to be socially dangerous in the sorts of places we gather in person.

kattyboomboom · 14/10/2020 04:14

Why do sites like pistonheads never get this much attention?

Isn't it just a site for petrolheads?

MsMarvellous · 14/10/2020 05:46

@kattyboomboom no. They have a wide ranging chat going on same as we do here. It's just for petrol heads in the same way we are just for mums.

ThinEndOfTheWedge · 14/10/2020 06:30

The site's discussion topics go far beyond traditional 'mothering' subjects and encompass politics, feminism and current affairs

What the hell is this patronising crap?

Has she never heard of the Mothers of la Plaza de Mayo - Argentina, the Mothers groups campaigning against violence against women in Mexico etc...?

How is being a mother this site doesn’t just have mothers NOT political/feminist/steeped in current affairs?

EdgeOfACoin · 14/10/2020 06:51

[quote MsMarvellous]@kattyboomboom no. They have a wide ranging chat going on same as we do here. It's just for petrol heads in the same way we are just for mums. [/quote]
Agreed - I've been surprised at the breadth of discussions on Pistonheads. Also DigitalSpy.

Thelnebriati · 14/10/2020 13:26

If anyone attends, does she understand why women talking are always disrupted, and how that disruption is a political act?

Abhannmor · 14/10/2020 14:22

@Antibles

'The personal is the political'
I remember that slogan. Very true. Although one unintended consequence has been the Identity Politics nightmare
PotholeParadies · 14/10/2020 15:00

Why is it that the moment I became a mother, it became reasonable to assume I would only want to talk about weaning?

Why do they object to women talking so much?

The politicisation of Mumsnet
wellbehavedwomen · 14/10/2020 16:33

Given she was one of the speakers at the Edinburgh University women's event, which was violently protested for daring to platform gender critical women (someone tried to assault Julie Bindel) and that she attended FiLia, I think she is well aware of the ways in which women are being silenced right now, and is not on board with it.

An interview. And another, which doesn't at all sound dismissive of Mumsnetters - in fact she comments that someone asked if anyone could speak Farsi on one thread, and within an hour, a poster provided a translation.

This woman is a genuine feminist. No clue what her own position is re. women's rights where gender identity is concerned, but she is certainly wholly committed to letting women speak, and aware of the demeaning way our views, and hers, are so readily dismissed.

chilling19 · 03/11/2020 18:08

Anyone watching?

SuperLoudPoppingAction · 03/11/2020 18:10

Me!

chilling19 · 03/11/2020 18:17

👋

chilling19 · 03/11/2020 18:17

Started a thread on FWR come over? Only a coup,e of us so far

chilling19 · 03/11/2020 18:18

Politicisation of Mumsnet - anyone watching?

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/4069048-politicisation-of-mumsnet-anyone-watching

IheartJKR · 03/11/2020 18:55

I’m on!!

CountFosco · 03/11/2020 19:03

Her book is dedicated to the wise, witty and wonderful women of Mumsnet Grin.

PhoebeSnow · 03/11/2020 19:07

Please let me know how can I watch this ! Thank you

SuperLoudPoppingAction · 03/11/2020 19:16

There will be a recording but also there will be another talk soon www.eventbrite.co.uk/e/a-womans-place-is-reading-the-politicization-of-mumsnet-tickets-127574590033

PhoebeSnow · 04/11/2020 09:45

Thank you SuperLoud

SuperLoudPoppingAction · 13/11/2020 12:21
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