Penis transplant

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www.medpagetoday.com/surgery/transplantation/89033

Well said Nauticant

That article is strange. "it would be hard-pressed to deny access to penile transplantation to transgender men solely on the basis of their gender identity while making it available to cisgender men.”

The recipients wouldn’t be discriminated against because of their gender identity. They would be disqualified for the (still speculative) operation because of their actual biology, their sex.

@Aesopfable

I think some of these surgeons are thinking very little about the patient - it is all about what is technically possible and having their name at the forefront of surgical developments.

Surgeons having god complexes? Surely not!

But seriously, this will inevitably happen. I even wonder if a transwoman and a trans man will come to some sort of swap agreement.

I have always thought that behind the scene pushing this agenda is the medical community

There is a strand of people in medecine who want to do things because they've never been done before - sometimes this leads to breakthroughs and amazing health benefits, sometimes, not. Which is why medical ethics is a whole thing of itself, I suppose.

@HPFA I don't see that transplanting testicles would ever be a thing because it would raise such huge issues. Why would a wife or parents agree to their loved one's sperm being used to create a child they would never see? I can't see this being a thing at all.

Sadly, I can see this. When men proclaim that child birth via surrogacy is a human right, and then state egg donor conceived children are a human right, then I won't be surprised to hear them make the argument that donor sperm/egg harvested from an organ donation is ethical.

Deceased organ donors don't choose their body part's recipients. They don't know if their penis goes to said wounded soldier allowing him to pee or to a woman who wants to be a man.

I agree wholeheartedly that this is unethical-imagine a child conceived this way and denied access to an entire family and even knowledge of a parent. What about that child's biological parent's spouse and maybe siblings and extended family who don't know they exist? How can the deceased donor consent to this or would they know it's possible before consenting to being a donor? Would this decrease organ donations for hearts, lungs, and other organs?

I didn't get any further than reading the headline and thinking "zombie penis".

I can't passed someone wanting a second hand penis! I would always be wondering where it has been. Also can it get erect or is it just flacid?
As other posters have said just because we can doesn't mean we should. Where are the medical ethics committees reviewing these ideas?

[quote Delphinium20]**@HPFA I don't see that transplanting testicles would ever be a thing because it would raise such huge issues. Why would a wife or parents agree to their loved one's sperm being used to create a child they would never see? I can't see this being a thing at all.

Sadly, I can see this. When men proclaim that child birth via surrogacy is a human right, and then state egg donor conceived children are a human right, then I won't be surprised to hear them make the argument that donor sperm/egg harvested from an organ donation is ethical.

Deceased organ donors don't choose their body part's recipients. They don't know if their penis goes to said wounded soldier allowing him to pee or to a woman who wants to be a man.

I agree wholeheartedly that this is unethical-imagine a child conceived this way and denied access to an entire family and even knowledge of a parent. What about that child's biological parent's spouse and maybe siblings and extended family who don't know they exist? How can the deceased donor consent to this or would they know it's possible before consenting to being a donor? Would this decrease organ donations for hearts, lungs, and other organs?[/quote]
In the UK currently permission for "novel" transplants is not covered by the normal system - instead a specific request has to be made to the family.

www.organdonation.nhs.uk/helping-you-to-decide/about-organ-donation/consent/?gclid=EAIaIQobChMI28eqxsus7AIVQbTtCh2LuwHiEAAYASAAEgLX4PD_BwE

I can't see it ever happening - quite apart from the technical difficulties. To be anywhere close to ethical you would have to have a pre-existing permission from the donor AND get permission from the donor. The chances of both of those occurring must be very small.

There was a massive case a while ago about someone using her dead husband's frozen sperm but I can't remember what the end result was.

Erkk - should have said "family" after second use of donor.

@HPFA

There was a massive case a while ago about someone using her dead husband's frozen sperm but I can't remember what the end result was.

Do you mean Diane Blood? She won the case and has two sons, both conceived after their father, her husband's death.

www.telegraph.co.uk/family/relationships/exclusive-diane-blood-family-life-20-years-won-right-use-dead/

It won't revolutionise anything, such dramatic medical statments always.
For one it won't do anything useful, it can't reproduce or have erections.
Then there is the anti transplant medication which can induce diabetes and all kinds of other diseases.
It isn't anything like a heart transplant, in that case you are doing a transplant despuite all the risks of the procedure and other medication to directly prevent certain death without it.
This procedure would be a non functioning cosmetic procedure on a healthy and usually young person which could non directly lead to their much earlier medication related illness and death.