Rupert Everett

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I have seen that Rupert Everett has done an interview in the Times where he is very vocal about his views on the current trans rights moment. I don’t have access to it. Does anyone have a share token.

I know that he identified as a girl from age 6 to 14 and is very against transitioning kids as a result of this. I think he has got a lot of criticism for his brows despite it being about his own life. He also made a documentary about prostitution where he talked about his trans friend who was murdered.

I love him, he’s always been very individual and and interesting commenter, able to have his own thoughts and views which must make him lonely sometimes in some arts circles.

And I agree he’s allowed to speak from his own perspective as a gay man, we need to hear from them too. Although it isn’t the same thing as it is for women at all in terms of personal risk from predatory types, which is unlikely, they’re still being expected by some to accommodate and consider trans men as gay men, and being told sexual preference isn’t a thing. And he’s right to object to trans issues dominating. They even now affect fewer people and when the TRA agenda dominates, it actively undermines the concept of same sex preference.

I think his experiences of wanting to be a girl and that not lasting are really important and I’d welcome him speaking more about that and bringing his articulacy to bear. The younger wokesters won’t listen to him but it could help parents.

If I recall the pink news reporting of this said 3 members of the LGBT+ community were murdered. A lot of gay men were very unhappy on Twitter because that headline muddied the waters, as LGBT+ is such a wide umbrella now, and they wanted it to be clear that it was gay men that had been killed.

Reading murders were in the news! What is Rupert complaining about? And the murderer is Libyan refugee, not our home-grown hater. We can't be responsible for someone 'fresh off the boat'. Our society is quite tolerant towards 'minorities' IMO. Don't really get RE's point.

We’re going to see different groups speaking out about this- our focus is the removal of rights of women and safeguarding around children, but gay men will have their own reasons, Green Party supports may find moving away from environmental issues and towards trans issues causes them to speak out, patients who have been misled about the safety of treatments will, there will be multiple reasons, that’s ok.

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Reading murders were in the news! What is Rupert complaining about? And the murderer is Libyan refugee, not our home-grown hater. We can't be responsible for someone 'fresh off the boat'. Our society is quite tolerant towards 'minorities' IMO. Don't really get RE's point.

I think his issue was that 3 gay men were stabbed in a park during Pride celebrations, and the suggestion is that they may have been targeted because they were gay, and the media, even the "LGBT+" media, were pretty silent about that, and that doesn’t bode well for people who are homosexual, because if the "LGBT+" community doesn't have your back, then who does? Especially since at the moment the "LGBT+" community is becoming increasingly homophobic towards people who are same-sex attracted.

I’ve loved Rupert for decades, he has been on my imaginary celebrity dinner party list for years. Unlike many actors, whose opinions I couldn’t care less about, I think he’s thoughtful and clever.

His point about having badly wanted to be a girl when he was young will likely go straight over the heads of those who think he should be cancelled. For all the drive is purported to be about allowing people to be “their true self”, if your true self is someone who used to struggle with their sexed body, and then came to accept and enjoy it, you’re just wrong and hateful, and it’s totally different anyway, because reasons.

I also love how he writes about his dog, when it was in training with some other dogs: “Darling, are you all right? Would you like a doggy bag?” 🤣

Years ago when I had major insomnia I used to lull myself off to sleep by imagining myself cuddled in the arms of Hypnos, god of sleep. Hypnos looked exactly like Rupert Everett as a young man. The fact that he was gay meant I didn't feel weird about snuggling down platonically in his arms.

I can see why he’d be pissed off at the reporting of the Reading incident, and I’ll be interested to see how it’s reported again once it gets to court. At the time there was as much official ‘Move along people, nothing to see here’ from the police as there was concern and empathy for the victims and their loved ones. It’s just yet another example of the failings of institutional capture by woke intersectionalism and it’s hierarchies of privilege and oppression, tick the right boxes and your appalling behaviour towards other groups is weirdly sanitised or even ignored.

As for the rest, I’m surprised the glaring homophobia of ‘genital preferences’ hasn’t caused far more of a stink by now. Just as woman are targeted in ways men are not, so gay and lesbian people are targeted in ways straight people are not. It speaks volumes about those who do the targeting, and who they really are underneath the accessories...🤔

The last FBI report on homicides also showed the highest rates among the LBTetcetc group to be for gay men, not for transgender people, though the overall numbers are hard to interpret as not all police departments keep the necessary statistics.

But this data, however partial, does suggest that the violence aimed at gay men perhaps is not discussed as much as it should be.

He is glorious. Sad that he feels he can't be more outspoken, when he's not normally known for his reticence!

Just leaving this here.....

I love him, he's gorgeous, but just put a chicken in the oven and for some reason I can't get it out of my mind 😂😂😂

Sorry

I love the way we get photos on a thread about him speaking up. Although that doesn’t seem to happen with Graham Linehan or Douglas Murray, so I’m in a cringe of recrimination about objectifying the poor man..........

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The last FBI report on homicides also showed the highest rates among the LBTetcetc group to be for gay men, not for transgender people, though the overall numbers are hard to interpret as not all police departments keep the necessary statistics.

But this data, however partial, does suggest that the violence aimed at gay men perhaps is not discussed as much as it should be.

We hear non-stop about violence towards trans people. (Much of which is vague and not based on actual fact.) So, yes, a very valid point I would think.

The Reading murders were in the news but not presented as homophobic hate crime. Don’t think the perpetrator stated his motives? If not presumably some evidence might come out at trial.

@Saucery

I love the way we get photos on a thread about him speaking up. Although that doesn’t seem to happen with Graham Linehan or Douglas Murray, so I’m in a cringe of recrimination about objectifying the poor man..........

I've started finding Linehan not entirely unattractive this past while.

Disagree with his views on (male) prostitution though (if recall correctly he’s in favour of liberalisation of the law etc)

I sat in the front row at the Greenwich Theatre when he was in Another Country before it transferred to the West End
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Graham Norton and Glinner are great people but they are not beautiful
Rupert was, is and will be
beautiful

as is Ian McKellen for that matter

Oh, thank god! I love Rupert Everett and he graced my wall when I was a teenager. I was so worried when I saw the thread title.

@ListeningQuietly yes, beautiful. I just saw the film of Another Country but saw him in The Vortex, which was amazing.

He is vocalising one of the main reasons I am so surprised that LGB has become LGBT in recent years. The T addition just seems to me to erode the legitimacy of being gay (either sex) and the Ts have no more or less in common with gay men and women than they do with straight men and women.

I've started finding Linehan not entirely unattractive this past while
A passion for doing what’s right can add a glow to the unlikeliest of men, but I can’t say I’d ever pore over Smash Hits keen to know whether he favours boxers or Y-fronts

@HopeClearwater - yes I'm in the UK...maybe there was something else going on in the news then?
actually it does sound vaguely familiar now, I seem to remember hearing some men had been attacked at Pride and being surprised it was stated so confidently that it wasn't a hate crime.

Are the police reluctant to identify refugees/asylum seekers as committing hate crimes?

@StillWeRise that’s a good point you raise with your last question. Terrorism was mentioned at the time. I also think that they try to keep things very quiet if there is a suspicion of major mental health issues with the perpetrator which I can understand.

yes, and I don't think it would be surprising if refugees and asylum seekers were prone to MH issues. But I wonder if it's also like the Cologne/New Year thing

Rupert Everett on Times Radio at the Cheltenham Literature Festival shortly. (Posted at 3pm)