Self-ID in Greece

[AnyOldPrion]

Came across this thread on Twitter a short while back, then couldn’t find it again. It discusses self-ID in Greece and unexpected consequences, including lesbian and gay couples where one of the couple changes legal sex in order to get married, as same-sex marriage still isn’t legal.

I don’t know enough about the Greek situation to comment on the accuracy and would be interested in hearing from anyone who does have more knowledge.

It interested me as another anomaly - having the legal ability to change your sex in another country where same-sex marriage is still not legal.

I was also struck by the obvious inference that people would change their sex for reasons other than being transsexual. Not that I regard changing sex to marry as nefarious, but that it’s a perfect example of how a law that allows legal sex change will be used for other reasons than the people it is supposedly brought in to benefit.

More information would be gladly received. And apologies if this has come up before. I did look when I originally saw (then couldn’t re-find) the thread, but couldn’t see anything.

twitter.com/egeria_aricia/status/1308069454601957379?s=21

It’s how the UK ended up with the GRA (no same sex marriage) so it’s no surprise it’s being used that way in countries that do not allow same sex marriage.

The situation in Greece was discussed in this thread a couple of years ago.

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3402360-is-the-word-woman-being-eroded-in-other-countries

It seems that the only people who objected to self ID were the communists and the church. There are some interesting contributions in that thread from someone living in Greece.

It's never going to stop being insane to me that people are still so upset at the thought of same sex couples, feminine men, and masculine women, that they would rather pretend it's possible to literally change sex than to just accept people as they are and treat them with equality. Mind bending. Almost as mind bending as the fact that some people have actually convinced themselves not only that this is true but that's its actually progressive. I feel like I live on a different planet to people some times.

OldCrone wrote - "It seems that the only people who objected to self ID were the communists and the church."

Did transgender ideology extremists accuse the Greek communists of being funded by the American far right, similar to how they claimed that British opponents of transgender self-identification were controlled and paid by American far-righters?

Women's Human Rights Campaign has a country contact in Greece, it would be possible to contact her for more info...
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