Has Marsha de Cordova just admitted sex is a PC?

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After yesterday's shitshow of a blog on the Equality Act which named all the PCs except sex (deservedly ratioed), MdC has tweeted in response to a piece suggesting the Law Society is encouraging the removal of single sex spaces:

mobile.twitter.com/MarshadeCordova/status/1311993483973062661

And she's not in favour.

Someone have a look and tell me I've not imagined it?

I saw it as well - either we’re having a mass (ish) delusion or it’s real!!
Her twitter critics think it’s real!!

There's a lot of very angry men on that twitter feed

The last Labour manifesto did promise to strengthen sex based protections.

I'm hoping this is holding true

I felt so heartened reading comments to her blog post on the labour party facebook page.

Women of different ages posting succinctly on her removing sex as a protected characteristic.

Labour heartland do not buy this shit.

Well it certainly seems to be real, has the blue tick.... And she's @-ed Liz Truss!

Labour are such a mess on this, I have no idea where they stand on women's rights as they flip flop from one position to another.

I just don't trust them. I don't trust their ability to think critically and I don't trust them to be honest.

Yeah, but does this person think that humans can actually change sex?

I really hate this:

He declined to say whether the Law Society considered if other groups could be adversely impacted by its policy, such as women for whom their religion, disability or past trauma meant they would be uncomfortable with biologically male bodies in their changing rooms.

Even when women's opposition to having transwomen in changing rooms is raised it is so often positioned as being valid on the basis of religion, disability or past trauma rather than on the basis of them identifying by biological sex and being uncomfortable in states of undress with people of the opposite biological sex.

We really need to make it clear that opposition to gender rather than sex-based separation is not because there is something "extra" that has happened to some women. You don't need to have been assaulted to be worried about assault and you don't need to be worried about assault or the wrath of some god to find it uncomfortable to get naked in front of someone of the opposite sex.

BoomBoomsCousin very well said. Not just people of the opposite sex but very often strangers. I find it difficult enough with female strangers, never mind, well you know

@PronounssheRa

Labour are such a mess on this, I have no idea where they stand on women's rights as they flip flop from one position to another.

I just don't trust them. I don't trust their ability to think critically and I don't trust them to be honest.

This.

It's not just about their disregard for women's rights (although that is bad enough), it's the fact that by swallowing gender ideology hook line and sinker they have lost all credibility to govern, in my eyes.

Oh dear some very patronising men on there

As an aside-Why would toilets be segregated by “gender” as one person mentions. Seriously this nonsense needs correcting every single time. May as well separate toilets by “like cats” “don’t like cats”. Gender is meaningless in that context

It is still up.
A ray of hope

She’s being ripped to pieces in the quote tweets

The amount of sad sorrowful handwringing TRA admonishing her to do better & stop being a transphobe

It’s no wonder Labour seem to genuinely think that’s how the whole country thinks

I think it's about an even split between positive and negative in the QTs, and the likes outnumber the comments by about 4 to 1.

Maybe she's got away with it? Tweeted plenty since.

Haven't seen any other Labour MPs supporting, although a few councillors have.

Could I just point out that Marriage and Civil Partnership are also PCs and they weren't mentioned either as far as I can see.

Sorry being thick this morning. What does PCs stand for ?

Oh ? is it protected characteristics ? Need coffee

I wish that someone would clarify this. FWIW I think she put out the 1st tweet without reading it. Or had read it and not noticed/cared that Women were omitted. And then thought she could redeem herself by the 2nd message.

We really need to make it clear that opposition to gender rather than sex-based separation is not because there is something "extra" that has happened to some women. You don't need to have been assaulted to be worried about assault and you don't need to be worried about assault or the wrath of some god to find it uncomfortable to get naked in front of someone of the opposite sex.

Yes. We're allowed to just want single sex spaces. There is nothing wrong with sometimes wanting a man-free space. I've sought out and enjoyed the company of women all my life; its natural and completely not fucking bigoted to sometimes want a woman's space.

Of course, all women need their thoughts policing......

Yes... I discovered that the Law Society template is dated August 2020, so once again we have evidence of a clear expectation that the law was going to be changed and the GRA adapted. It has not been, so a lot of people and organisations have been left with egg on their faces.

Interesting that the Law Society is one of them!

The shadow secretary is simply aliging herself with the old/new reality and eschewing all connection with the change she and so many others thought was coming. In merely drawing attention to the disparity, she's behaved a good deal better than some of the examples we've been discussing lately.

We really need to make it clear that opposition to gender rather than sex-based separation is not because there is something "extra" that has happened to some women. You don't need to have been assaulted to be worried about assault and you don't need to be worried about assault or the wrath of some god to find it uncomfortable to get naked in front of someone of the opposite sex.

Yes, this! I really don't like having to play the nervous potential victim card. I hate it when women have to back up their opinions by revealing that they've been assaulted or whatever. I'm fed up with having to justify my feelings. The TRAs don't, do they? They just feel them and that's that, we all have to fall in line.