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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Is Stonewall advertising on Mumsnet?

52 replies

AmusedBoosh · 23/09/2020 14:16

Because I find it highly amusing if they are. Thanks for the funding Grin

Is Stonewall advertising on Mumsnet?
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Deliriumoftheendless · 23/09/2020 21:28

Maybe Twitter people should tell Stonewall to “do better” and express how”disappointed” they are in a really passive aggressive way.

BaseDrops · 23/09/2020 21:40

Am I the only one seeing the advert is under a bunch of threads which are all bar one about female biology?

Needmoresleep · 23/09/2020 21:44

Is the ad generated by Google. In the same way that adverts for gay cruises used to pop up.

If so, epic fail.

testing987654321 · 23/09/2020 23:22

Do they pay extra for click throughs?

Reading late at night is a bad move, I just read this as "do they pay extra for dicks though?"

Escapeplanning · 24/09/2020 01:23

Share the right wing evangelical funding with Stonewall, click more for dollars, I will be passing on my account for commission shortly.

ninetynineAu · 24/09/2020 06:16

I've always intensely disliked the use of baby blue and pink for a 'civil rights' flag. Not only because of the regressive, mid-20th century sexist stereotyping of it being "Blue for boys, and pink for girls", which, importantly is how their activists also explain it.

I mean, look at other (pre-Tumblr) Pride flags- Our Lesbian flag is strong with the labrys on purple and black stripes, the Rainbow flag is bold, as is every other flag of any group fighting for rights and liberation.
Being careful how I say this, but no one else uses soft pastels, no one else uses colours immediately associated with small children and children's nurseries, and no one else, I would think, would be describing our flags with infantilising references to 'boys', rather than men, and 'girls' rather than women. As a lesbian who noticed our L,G, and B communities were just told, not asked if we wanted our organisations suddenly in coalition with the 'T', it's made me extremely uncomfortable to be linked in the public mind with...that.

DickKerrLadies · 24/09/2020 07:54

@TheGreatWave

Hang on, I thought that MN was a cesspool of transphobia and that any company advertising on the platform was therefore transphobic and should distance themselves, otherwise the company would be boycotted and have to deal with a lot of emails.

Come on then, start giving Stonewall the same treatment as the GMB union, it is only right and fair to do so.

I'm sure the usual 'folk' are composing their angry tweets as we speak to ask how Stonewall can align themselves with such mean witches as us.

Guilt by association and all that, isn't that how it works these days? Everything regarding JK Rowling at the moment seems to suggest that.

NewlyGranny · 24/09/2020 08:23

Thanks for the link, Highame - great article! It's getting harder and harder to understand what the missing rights are...

SophocIestheFox · 24/09/2020 08:27

@testing987654321

Do they pay extra for click throughs?

Reading late at night is a bad move, I just read this as "do they pay extra for dicks though?"

🤣 Yes,, I think they do.

Same ad has started popping up on the grauniad site. Less surprising to see it there in its natural home.

How could they give money to Mumsnet? Shameful

OldCrony · 24/09/2020 08:48

I don't get why they'd pay for extra dicks, surely they have enough?

YetAnotherSpartacus · 24/09/2020 09:16

I've always intensely disliked the use of baby blue and pink for a 'civil rights' flag. Not only because of the regressive, mid-20th century sexist stereotyping of it being "Blue for boys, and pink for girls", which, importantly is how their activists also explain it

I only just got that. I thought the pink was a derivation of the original colour for gay men/rights.

Here is a complete guide to Pride flags.

www.pride.com/pride/2018/6/13/complete-guide-queer-pride-flags-0#media-gallery-media-10

Note the subtle snidey put-down in respect to the lesbian flag.

FubsyRanbler · 24/09/2020 09:31

The first time I came across the labrys as a symbol of female empowerment was way before 1999.
It was on a Greek red-figure pot, in the hand of Clytemnestra, striding into Agamemnon’s bath house with a serious expression.
He sacrificed their daughter, Iphigenia before setting off for Troy.
She waited 10 years for him, and slaughtered him on his return.

YetAnotherSpartacus · 24/09/2020 09:34

I remember the labrys, I'm desperately trying to remember any flags. The women's flag was either all purple or suffragette colours.

highame · 24/09/2020 09:35

Do you think Stonewall are here to pick up supporters?

Or perhaps to persuade Mums that safeguarding is silly nonsense, or maybe TWAW, or even looking here for the kindness we women are famed for?

OldCrony · 24/09/2020 10:25

Men really, really love flags.

YetAnotherSpartacus · 24/09/2020 10:28

I'm reminded a little of 'What colour is your handkerchief?' a little myself :)

NewlyGranny · 24/09/2020 11:03

Demisexual: someone who needs to feel an emotional connection with a partner before they can be sexually attracted. So that's what I am - who knew?!

As opposed to "anything with a pulse" attraction? Funny, there was no flag for that... 🤔

highame · 24/09/2020 11:06

😂😂

YetAnotherSpartacus · 24/09/2020 11:08

I thought demi meant partially or half size?

GCNewbie · 24/09/2020 11:24

It looks to me like it's meant to look as if Mumsnet are making the statement. It doesn't say who the "we" referred to is and the website shown at the bottom of the advert doesn't show which organisation the advert is from.

NewlyGranny · 24/09/2020 12:04

Perhaps it's part of the apology package from MN to a certain person whose feelings were hurt yesterday. They cherry-picked part of my post and quoted it on their Twitter where the usual nasty things were imagined about me in the comments.

I was quite flattered though I felt a little guilty for making trouble, but hey, the patriarchy won't smash itself, amiright?

OldCrony · 24/09/2020 12:46

Will stonewalls have to now boycott themselves?

AmusedBoosh · 24/09/2020 13:50

I periodically click through it a few times and click/linger on a few things on the site.

Every penny helps 😂

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bishopgiggles · 24/09/2020 13:53

@Binglebong

I spotted that too. Grin

I don't know the individual set up of course but with paid for links they usually can see what you went on to do: how long you stay on the page, where you clicked after, if you made purchases etc. Companies such as mumsnet use that info to show it's not a pointless click, that people using the link result in sales or info read so they can provide evidence it's worth the money. I'm not aware of anyone getting email or IP addresses and I would be surprised if that happens.

I'm not worried about what data an advertiser can get from me, but if you are, you probably can't go into your privacy settings and change them. www.mumsnet.com/Talk/site_stuff/3995461-Cant-see-or-update-privacy-settings
Binglebong · 24/09/2020 14:28

I notice the careful hijack of tye suffragettes flag too.Angry

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