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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

International Women's Day blog - bloke with a beard?

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highame · 18/09/2020 09:45

civilservice.blog.gov.uk/2019/04/21/working-together-for-the-benefit-of-all/

Got this link from Sarah Pillmores twitter account (don't know how to link to her account but some good comments on there. It's on FairCop

Bloke with a beard talks about gender consultation and getting men involved. He's a civil servant, of course he is

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highame · 18/09/2020 09:49

On my return to the Home Office (HO), I am excited to be co-chair the Gender Equality Network (GEN) alongside Kerry O’Dea. This will be the first time the HO has had a male lead or co-leads of its gender network.

You know what this is going to mean

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BovaryX · 18/09/2020 09:53

@highame

On my return to the Home Office (HO), I am excited to be co-chair the Gender Equality Network (GEN) alongside Kerry O’Dea. This will be the first time the HO has had a male lead or co-leads of its gender network.

You know what this is going to mean

What a load of pathetic bollocks.
NearlyGranny · 18/09/2020 09:59

No theoretical reason why a man cannot lead or co-lead on gender equality, which, by the time and content of his writing seems to mean sex equality. Were I a civil servant, I think I'd be positive and watchful, and I'd be looking to be engaged and have my voice heard.

NearlyGranny · 18/09/2020 09:59

Tone, not time!

Imnobody4 · 18/09/2020 10:02

Kerry and I are committed to embedding gender equality in who we are and what we do. Focusing on talent, balanced representation, workplace culture and intersectionality to continue to make the experiences of women and men as positive as possible within their careers. Of course, gender is not binary, and our focus in GEN is to work collaboratively with the staff networks, the D&I and HR teams, and external experts, to deliver interventions that improve the experiences of all staff.
Which is why it should be sex not gender and Women's Equality Network. It's gender studies all over again.

highame · 18/09/2020 10:41

nearlygranny I agree but think I've seen too much that says this will become gender, gender, gender

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Gingerkittykat · 18/09/2020 23:54

They have made the day about how they can bring men into IWD. Can't we have anything for ourselves?

DontBuyANewMumCashmere · 18/09/2020 23:59

Ginger that reminds me of the police force (PSNI I think) who did a #HeForShe campaign for IWD this year, and basically gave out certificates to all the men who had been decent allies.
Certificates for men. On International Women's Day. Confused

ErrolTheDragon · 19/09/2020 00:18

@Gingerkittykat

They have made the day about how they can bring men into IWD. Can't we have anything for ourselves?
I wouldn't mind if they brought men in to listen.
WeeBisom · 19/09/2020 00:30

“Gendered judgements, made by men and women, impact the experience of the workplace for both men and women, often having a greater impact on women’s progress to leadership positions. It is not helpful to think of these as ‘women’s issues’, because they affect us all.”

It’s not helpful to think of sexism in the workplace as a “women’s issue” cos “gendered judgments” impact the experience of the workplace for MEN as well! This is “what about the men“ in woke form. So how are men negatively affected by gendered judgments (by women) in the workplace? Because it seems to me that men are doing fantastically at work!

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