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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Another dodgy gynaecologist...

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Aesopfable · 17/09/2020 20:53

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Royal Derby Hospital. Must be nearly all his patients harmed. Sad

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Pinkshrimp · 17/09/2020 21:29

Appalling. Those poor women Sad
I’m so grateful for the wonderful female gynaecologist who did a marvellous job of my hysterectomy. It must be so distressing for those women to not only end up suffering so much but, to then discover, he’s damaged hundreds of women before. Awful.
Why wasn’t he stopped sooner! Angry

ArabellaScott · 17/09/2020 22:03

Ugh.

EarthSight · 17/09/2020 22:29

Misogynistic psychopath, most likely.

I got an appointment letter telling me I had an appointment due with a male gyno. Theres a team of 3- 4 there I think and I asked for a female one.they said I'd be waiting for weeks for an appointment with them and they weren't amused at my request to changed and I felt judged for asking.

ArabellaScott · 17/09/2020 22:38

I'm really sorry to hear that, Earth.

I had a male gyno for my 1st birth. It was hell. He was undoubtedly a misogynist - bullied me until I cried and agree to do what he wanted - then cracked sexist jokes all through the c-section, even while I was crying. The staff all knew it, murmured as much before I saw him. Pig. I wish I'd reported him, but I expect he's long gone.

I'd ask for a woman every time, after that shit show.

ARoombaOfOnesOwn · 17/09/2020 23:00

Arabella that is horrific. I’m so sorry Flowers

ArabellaScott · 17/09/2020 23:09

Thanks, Roomba. I'm sure there may be some very good male ob/gyns out there. But I suspect that many men choose that kind of field for the chance to control, bully and abuse women, sadly.

NiceGerbil · 18/09/2020 03:10

Serious lack of info on those reports.

Was he incompetent and no one wanted to report it/ blind eye turned

Or was he deliberately harming women

Either way. My first thought was, not again.

AsTreesWalking · 18/09/2020 06:40

Those reports are very info. light, it's hard to see what was going on - incompetence, deliberate harm?.
(On a side note, the male gynae and anesthetist I had for my hysterectomy could not have been better - excellent doctors and sympathetic reassuring people. They do exist, thank goodness)

jellybeanbonbon · 18/09/2020 10:23

I asked for a female one.they said I'd be waiting for weeks for an appointment with them and they weren't amused at my request to changed and I felt judged for asking.

This is appalling.
It should be fully normalised and expected that a number of women aren’t going to be happy or comfortable with a male gynaecologist. Something like 1 in 4 women have a history of sexual abuse/trauma/assault which the vast majority of the time is related to male/s. So that statistic alone shows how many women who use their services may not want to be treated by a man.
Of course many women are fine with it still needs to be worked around sensitively with all women given the clear choice. And certainly not to feel judged for requesting a female :(

JacobReesMogadishu · 19/09/2020 11:58

I’d just like to say that I know the doctor involved. I read the reports here first of all and then was told who it was and was shocked.

I’ve known him In a professional capacity as well as outside of work. Though this was some years Ago. He had the reputation of being a good consultant and certainly someone who’d I’d have been happy to have care from inc surgery. He was certainly no misogynist and cared about his patients.

I don’t know what went wrong. He’s been door stepped by the media and I read in The Times today that he said he started to have mental health problems and as soon as he realised it had affected his work he resigned of his own accord and is now totally retired and very much wants to apologise to anyone affected. He’s genuinely a nice bloke and I can’t imagine how he must be feeling.

I do think that the nhs needs to be more robust in it’s surveillance of outcomes. To try and prevent repeats of this, or indeed a truly dodgy doctor. Sadly as far as I know there’s no system/no person checking the stats of individual surgeons/doctors. So it takes a colleague.....another doctor, a nurse, a GP to notice a pattern and raise it. By the time an individual has seen a pattern so many patients can have been affected.

Even the individual doctor concerned may not realise for some time. They do some surgery, the patient is discharged. Back home things aren’t right still, in pain, etc. They go back to their GP, maybe get fobbed off a bit. Either give up and suffer or eventually get referred back to a gynaecologist. Probably ask for a different one. But if there’s 8-12 consultants at that hospital the women getting referred get spread around those other doctors so they don’t notice for a while, the original doctor has no idea.....there needs to be a better system.

Aesopfable · 20/09/2020 08:06

or indeed a truly dodgy doctor.

If he has been harming hundreds of women then he is very much a truly dodgy doctor. Lots of people who harms women seem ‘nice’.

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borntobequiet · 20/09/2020 08:28

It’s awful. And of course women should be able to request a female gynae, and see one.
However, incompetence is not the preserve of one sex only, and the male gynaes I have seen have been thoughtful, respectful and skilled. I don’t see female GPs about gynae issues because I have found them dismissive and unhelpful, whereas male GPs have been understanding and proactive in care.

nothingcomestonothing · 20/09/2020 12:33

I’d just like to say that I know the doctor involved....I’ve known him In a professional capacity as well as outside of work. He had the reputation of being a good consultant and certainly someone who’d I’d have been happy to have care from...He’s genuinely a nice bloke and I can’t imagine how he must be feeling.

I could have written that word for word a few years ago, about Dr Myles Bradbury. He's currently serving 18 years for sexually abusing children with cancer. People who are motivated to control, abuse, harm are excellent at grooming their colleagues and friends, as well as their victims.

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