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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Sainsbury's staff changing/ toilet facilities

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Shedbuilder · 14/09/2020 09:55

I read the Baroness's letter to the CEO of Sainsburys and was unpleasantly surprised to note that Sainsburys appear to be doing away with male and female toilets for their workers. Sainsbury's is my favourite local supermarket and we spend several thousand there every year.

I wrote to the CEO asking if they were merging male and female loos and facilities for their staff and I've had this reply from an assistant:

^Thank you for your recent correspondence that has been received by our Executive's Office. I have been asked to look into your feedback and respond personally.

The information you have received about our customer toilets is not correct and I can reassure you that no changes have been made.

Our customer toilet policy hasn’t changed for many years and none of our female customer toilets have been removed.

We are proud to be an inclusive retailer and we regularly review our colleague policies as a part of this commitment. We recently updated our guidance on colleague toilets and changing rooms and this is based on recommendations made in the Equality Act 2010^

So I think that's an admission that they have done away with separate loos and facilities for male and female staff.

I'm incredibly busy for the next couple of days. I know I could do the research on loo provision and the 2010 Equality Act myself but if anyone is engaged with a similar fight and has the info at their fingertips I'd appreciate a couple of paragraphs I can cut and paste into my response to them. Thanks in advance.

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ThinEndoftheWedge · 14/09/2020 10:03

Executing two versions of the EA policy at once.

What contact info did you use? I will write too.

Shedbuilder · 14/09/2020 10:10

Sainsbury's CEO is

[email protected]

He'll kick it down to the 'be kind and woke' department, as he did with my email.

I feel a Sainsbury's boycott coming on. Are there any Sainsbury staff on here who could inform of what's happening? Maybe I'll ask on AIBU.

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Ereshkigalangcleg · 14/09/2020 10:14

Workplace toilets are covered by the Health and Safety at Work act, there is nothing specific in the EA2010 that either allows MTF trans people to use them or specifies that they must be single sex. Service providers can use single sex exemptions under the EA to exclude males from female single sex spaces even with a GRC, if it is judged a proportionate means to a legitimate aim.

The Health and Safety at Work Act guidance says the expectation is that "separate rooms containing conveniences are provided for men and women except where and so far as each convenience is in a separate room the door of which is capable of being secured from inside." www.hse.gov.uk/contact/faqs/toilets.htm

JellySlice · 14/09/2020 12:21

The Health and Safety at Work Act guidance says the expectation is that "separate rooms containing conveniences are provided for men and women except where and so far as each convenience is in a separate room the door of which is capable of being secured from inside."

Which means that woke orgs can say

Our customer toilet policy hasn’t changed for many years and none of our female customer toilets have been removed.

Because as far as they are concerned the male-bodied people whom they now permit into the women's facilities are women.

OvaHere · 14/09/2020 12:25

There was this case recently. Mixed sex staff changing areas.

www.thesun.co.uk/news/12430560/sainsburys-worker-filmed-colleagues-camera/

Ereshkigalangcleg · 14/09/2020 15:08

Because as far as they are concerned the male-bodied people whom they now permit into the women's facilities are women.

Yes. It needs to go to court. Because that's not what the law says, and the rules are stricter for workplaces.

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