Green Party elections

[BoreOfWhabylon]

I signed up to try to make a difference.

Bartley and Berry have been re-elected as co-leaders and Amelia Womack as Deputy.

I've just cancelled my membership.

Ah well, I tried.

This is why they need to lengthen the time of membership before allowing people to vote. You weren't interested in making a difference, you wanted to sway the vote on one issue. Good to see that the vast majority disagree with you.

Whatevs, sweetie.

The vast majority (in the greens) may disagree but an even vaster majority (of the general public) won’t vote the greens in.

How did you cancel? I'm trying to do same, for same reason, but their website is shite...

I rejoined to vote but really disappointed, really small turnout though, I think 15% of members. I'm trying to decide whether it's worth staying, there are people in the party who are fighting against all this and trying to re-prioritise environmental stuff.

This is why they need to lengthen the time of membership before allowing people to vote. You weren't interested in making a difference, you wanted to sway the vote on one issue.

I actually agree with this. It is a shame though that the Greens have lost their way, many many women have left over this.

Is there any hope for the greens with this lot leading it?

That's a real shame, I joined to try and help the greens course correct as well. I'm going to stay as a member though. They're the only party as far as I can see that has GC members willing to stand for leadership roles. They may be utterly shit, but they're the only party right now that we have a chance of swaying. Obviously they'll never be elected to government, but if they can break free from the anti intellectual anti science elements of their party and return to policy grounded in evidence and reality then maybe it will empower members in other parties to start doing the same.

I am surprised and disappointed that more women didn't join to vote for this though. Given the enormous strength of feeling on these boards, the number of people willing to donate to court cases, the thousand of women attending meetings and the hundreds of thousands campaigning online, I would have thought this would be a really obvious piece of activism. With such a small number of members turning out to vote we could have made a real impact here.

I'd be interested to learn why the GC women here who didn't join to vote chose not to?

@ByGrabtharsHammerWhatASavings

I am surprised and disappointed that more women didn't join to vote for this though. Given the enormous strength of feeling on these boards, the number of people willing to donate to court cases, the thousand of women attending meetings and the hundreds of thousands campaigning online, I would have thought this would be a really obvious piece of activism. With such a small number of members turning out to vote we could have made a real impact here.

I'd be interested to learn why the GC women here who didn't join to vote chose not to?

I have no interest in making the Green Party be successful by infiltrating it to stop their true membership getting what they want. For voting I need to know what the party stands for. Their membership made a choice in a free and fair vote. When I get my free and fair vote in a GE I will not vote Green, some other people will vote for them (not many). Multi-party democracy in action. Long may it last.

@teawamutu

How did you cancel? I'm trying to do same, for same reason, but their website is shite...

Well, I managed to get through the website and filled in a form but have had no acknowledgement yet, so I cancelled the direct debit.

I’ve been an environmental activist for decades, but stopped voting Green because of the misogyny, the unconditional support for insiders and lack of concern for child safety. All in pursuit of woke points. Nothing to do with the environment.

This is why they need to lengthen the time of membership before allowing people to vote. You weren't interested in making a difference, you wanted to sway the vote on one issue.

Not so. I would be delighted to vote Green because I agree with many of their policies; I can't while they're committed to misogyny.

In terms of making a difference: the Greens certainly won't while no fecker votes for them, and rampant science denial and wokeism doesn't seem to be working.

The search for a sane political party continues.

I joined the party this year to vote for saner candidates. That’s not infiltrating, it’s trying to get the party back to green issues instead of juvenile identity politics.

@thinkingaboutLangCleg

I joined the party this year to vote for saner candidates. That’s not infiltrating, it’s trying to get the party back to green issues instead of juvenile identity politics.

Ditto.

I joined to vote for candidates who were honest enough to say what we all know a woman is. Sadly, it's not to be. It was definitely worth a shot. I will keep my membership and see what happens.

I actually voted Green in the last two elections here (before I knew about all this stuff)

The fact is that we can sit about complaining we're politically homeless all day long, but no one is going to hand us a decent political party which represents our views on a plate. TRA entryism has been going on for years, and it will continue to go on for as long as it works. If we want a party which GC women can vote for, we need to join up and start trying to shape policy. Doesn't have to be the greens, but it just isn't going to happen otherwise. That's not perverting democracy, it's participating in it. The greens invited people to join their party in order to vote for their leaders and policy makers. That's what I did, and like every other person who voted I chose the candidates who best represented my interests. It didn't work out how I'd hoped, but it was hardly a deceitful or antidemocratic thing to do! I paid my membership fee. I'm just as much a "genuine member" as anybody else.

Does anyone know why so few people voted?

I didn't join to influence the vote because I have turned away from any party that does not know what a woman is. Especially when those parties term any disagreements as transphobic.

How can you be an environmentalist saying science is important and using this against science deniers and yet deny science when it comes to biology.

Turn against me and I'm not listening any more.

I'm glad the Green Party Thread will slowly shuffle off the board

@ByGrabtharsHammerWhatASavings

The fact is that we can sit about complaining we're politically homeless all day long, but no one is going to hand us a decent political party which represents our views on a plate. TRA entryism has been going on for years, and it will continue to go on for as long as it works. If we want a party which GC women can vote for, we need to join up and start trying to shape policy. Doesn't have to be the greens, but it just isn't going to happen otherwise. That's not perverting democracy, it's participating in it. The greens invited people to join their party in order to vote for their leaders and policy makers. That's what I did, and like every other person who voted I chose the candidates who best represented my interests. It didn't work out how I'd hoped, but it was hardly a deceitful or antidemocratic thing to do! I paid my membership fee. I'm just as much a "genuine member" as anybody else.

yep, we can't sit around and wait for stuff to drop in our laps, we have to take action

We need a Lifeboat Party (women and children first).

We need a system of PR so a new party stands a chance of getting some people elected. For other reasons too.