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Double murderer found guilty- shocking history

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NiceGerbil · 03/09/2020 20:46

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-53950083

'A BBC investigation has identified a series of issues relating to the case:

In 2002, a teenage girl told police that Younis had attacked her with a hammer and crowbar, after falsely imprisoning her. No further action was taken.
In 2007, 26 charges against Younis relating to two young teenage girls were discontinued after a judge directed that a jury should clear him of many of the offences following evidence from one of the victims.
In 2008, a plea agreement resulted in several charges against Younis being discontinued, including rape and sexual assault.
In 2016, Ms Szucs was placed in a safe house for victims of trafficking after she was thrown from a block of flats by a man - not Younis - who was on bail for allegedly raping her. The CPS had declined to authorise a rape charge after it was first reported in February 2015. The Met Police lost contact with her as she fell under the control of Younis.
The Met's missing person inquiry into Ms Mustafa - which started in 2018 - did not examine vital phone evidence, which would have shown contact with Younis around the time she vanished. It is now the subject of an internal Scotland Yard inquiry after her family made a series of complaints.'

Shades of Ian Huntley, John warboys and many others.

I expect 'lessons will be learned'.

The police record with previous crimes I mean FFS. Time and time again there's nothing doing until they do the worst.

I'm sick of it.

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CousinKrispy · 04/09/2020 19:24

I would like those judges to be held accountable. (In addition to the police and all other services who failed these women and girls.) Surely the names of judges in his trials is a matter of public record and there should be an investigation of their fitness to serve?

NiceGerbil · 04/09/2020 19:32

Yes I do think that when things like this happen, what happened with the court cases and the judges should be revisited.

One thing I'm not clear on in the story. The one with a previous boyfriend who was going to be done for brutalising her. I'm not clear whether he was convicted or not? I assume he must have been as he's named?

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DrDavidBanner · 04/09/2020 20:13

I expect 'lessons will be learned'.

The only lessons ever learned are that some people are expendable and you can get away with doing anything to them.

MillyMollyFarmer · 04/09/2020 20:25

Sometimes it’s just so awful it’s hard to find the words.

powershowerforanhour · 05/09/2020 00:17

What a fucking disgrace.
Those poor women. They had no chance.

Socrates11 · 05/09/2020 07:30

On and on it goes. Male violence against women and children is a global issue. For people who are sick & tired of this senseless brutality & want to do something about it, November 25th is the International Day for the Elimination of Violence against Women and girls. Not sure the UN with it's violent peacekeepers can be a moral authority on preventing violence against women but having a day of recognition & remembrance is a way to bring people together on this issue.

From UN site:
Women’s activists have marked 25 November as a day against violence since 1981. It was on this day in 1960 that the three Mirabal sisters, political activists in the Dominican Republic, were brutally assassinated on the orders of the then Dominican dictator Rafael Trujillo. Read more about the Mirabal sisters on Wikipedia.

Karen Ingala Smith was on a panel discussing male violence at the WPUK conference. Karen is not optimistic about ending male violence against women but is determined to fight on. Fight on for Henriett Szucs, Mihrican Mustapha, Natalie Connolly, Shana Grice, and the thousands of women and children killed every year across the globe by men & totally failed by the police and CJS.
womansplaceuk.org/2020/02/08/what-needs-to-happen-to-end-violence-against-women-karen-ingala-smith/

There is a WPUK event coming up this month on this issue. 17th September for
www.eventbrite.co.uk/o/womans-place-uk-15661534662

PearPickingPorky · 05/09/2020 07:50

@user12642379742146

Budgets don't cause police officers to view and treat vulnerable female victims of abuse as worthless. Don't hide behind that shit as an excuse.

The Met suddenly had the resources to adequately investigate this perpetrator when it was one of their own he assaulted.

Yes, this.

They also seem to find the resources, and the CPS seem willing to prosecute the most serious charges (even when the evidence is poor) when the perpetrator is a woman they want to make an example of.

Women are so hated by every institution in this country. I am so fucking angry about that. I don't know what we can do.

VikingVolva · 05/09/2020 07:55

I would really like to see the transcripts from the 2007 case, to know the reasons why that direction was made.

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