Stonewalled - Fair Copper shines a light on what it’s like to undergo Stonewall re-education at work

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Stonewall told us that there are three fundamental components which make up people’s individual identity (other components include age, religion, etc):

1. Gender identity: A person’s sense of their own gender, which may or may not correspond with to the sex assigned at birth. Examples include male, female, non-binary and genderqueer
2. Orientation: An umbrella term describing a person’s attraction, or lack thereof to other people. This attraction may be sexual and/or romantic. Examples include gay, lesbian, bi, asexual/aromantic, straight
3. Gender expression: How a person outwardly expresses their gender, within the context of societal expectations of gender. Examples include masculine, feminine, androgynous, fluid.

Full article at www.faircop.org.uk/stonewalled/

'Assigned at birth' is a term used when referring to those with DSD, isn't it? They've basically nicked a term for a disorder that's got feck all to do with gender.

They're too stupid to realise how fucking stupid they look.

These statements as to what people's identities are made up of are rubbish.

They're based on assumptions.

Like for gender they say the vast majority of people have a strong internal sense of gender.

Obviously trans people do. But do others? Has anyone asked? No. They make it up.

As an atheist, religion or even not religion has zero impact on my identity.

There are other things that do make up my identity- I am an X. But each person will have a very different and personal list.

They have a nerve defining orientation when they no longer accept sane sex attraction

And im still fascinated at how apparently that apparently no longer exists or is relevant is used tp define yourself against it

Which is it?

I was just coming to post this! It's a brilliant piece of writing, but the saddest thing is that the author feels compelled to be anonymous through fear of consequences.

Why can't we be having these conversations, openly, transparently and honestly? Where do we think this is going to go?

If you have time, check out #wecops on Twitter - they had a 'chat' about intersectionality last night and what it means to the police. But it wasn't a conversation so far as I could see - just an opportunity for people to signal to their tribe that they 'belong'.

'Intersectionality' just seems to me a code word now for elevating some minorities above others. I don't see how this promotes diversity, inclusivity or reduces 'hate' - if anything, it increases it.

I spent yesterday evening applying to an organisation that is a stonewall champion. I want the job but I don't think I could be open and honest about my views in interviews.

"Transitioning: “The steps a trans person may make to live in the gender with which they identify. Each person’s transition will involve different things. For some, this involves medical intervention, such as hormone therapies and surgeries, but not all trans people want or are able to have this."

And there we have it. Stonewall admits some trans people will not have any medical interventions: Stonewall is campaigning for those people to be allowed into women’s single-sex spaces. Everyone needs to get angry about this. This fight is not about trans rights (which are already protected in the UK), it is about securing access for men to vulnerable women and children. Stonewall’s trans umbrella now includes transvestites, crossdressers, drag queens and genderqueers and Stonewall wants them all to be allowed into women’s spaces if that’s their desire."

And let's not forget that it is already possible to get a GRC without any medical interventions.
Stonewall wants to go further and get rid of the remaining criteria i.e. GD diagnosis (which is not designed to weed out AGPs like some people seem to think) and 2 years living in gender (utility bills in the new name), but their actual target is the Equality Act and single-sex provisions.
Because woman is a feeling

I’m a police officer. Fortunately none of this has reached my force...yet. Actually quite a few of my colleagues are gender critical (probably without realising) as this ideology is quite late in landing here and they’ve already read about it in the Mail ages ago and seen Piers slate it! I think Stonewall may find they’ve missed the boat with a lot of officers. It’s a majority-male workforce who have no time for “woke”, tend to like Piers Morgan and Jordan Peterson, read the Daily Mail and are mainly Tory voters.
When it does come I will be challenging the idea of gender. I’m here for the truth “without fear or favour”. Do the right thing no matter how difficult.

YeOldeName - as a serving police officer (thank you btw), are you aware of the police promoting any charitable organisations such as disabled, children etc please? Or if not, who can I ask to find out.

I am having a conversation about the apparent conflict of interests with the police promoting Stonewall etc but have been challenged to demonstrate that the police don't also promote any other organisation (which is quite tricky if it doesn't happen).

Off the top of my head many forces do promote Samaritans but not with anywhere near the same vigour as that invested in the rainbow. If you think about the rainbow epaulettes, officers marching in Pride, rainbow police cars and other merchandise there isn’t an equivalent anywhere else.
They take advice from charities about things like DV or child abuse so say if there was a posted about the latter it could be endorsed by the NSPCC and I think this sort of thing is often seen on Twitter too.
The problem is there is no “the police”. There are lots of different forces so eg The Met is your employer not “the police”. Seeing the extent of the capture means analysing each force individually

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Off the top of my head many forces do promote Samaritans but not with anywhere near the same vigour as that invested in the rainbow. If you think about the rainbow epaulettes, officers marching in Pride, rainbow police cars and other merchandise there isn’t an equivalent anywhere else. They take advice from charities about things like DV or child abuse so say if there was a posted about the latter it could be endorsed by the NSPCC and I think this sort of thing is often seen on Twitter too. The problem is there is no “the police”. There are lots of different forces so eg The Met is your employer not “the police”. Seeing the extent of the capture means analysing each force individually

Fair Cop have been asking various forces to demonstrate what they have been spending on the different protected characteristics. They have a public sector equality duty under the EA to promote all and not cause division/upset etc.

Not sure what the state of play is re responses, but certainly my perception from what I see on social media is that the T gets a huge amount of attention, second comes the LGB and for the others? Barely a whisper.

The police disabilities group confirmed it gets no funding. Don't see any parades for disabled people where police march for e.g.

I'll put the Mermaids training workshop, that Men at Work attended, on here for anyone that missed it.

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Apologies for saying Fair Coppers rather than Fair Cop. should I ask MNHQ to change title. They should be acknowledged for posting this.