Judge gives Transgender Trend permission to intervene in support of Keira Bell

[stumbledin]

We are very happy to announce that the judge in this case has given Transgender Trend permission to intervene in support of Keira Bell @KLBfax

twitter.com/Transgendertrd/status/1300730918710259712

Excellent news

What does that mean? Intervene to support financially? Or give evidence?

Great news! The tweet has a link if people want to give support.

Not saying this is the exact case here but an explanation of intervening:

justice.org.uk/our-work/third-party-interventions/

Oh wow that is significant! Thanks for the explanation.

Great!

PS how come there are two separate crowd justice pages on this, one by Keira Bell and one by Susan Evans?

Susan Evans case says:

to bring this test case that will ask the courts to establish that children cannot give their informed consent to radical experimental medical treatment. The harm they might suffer could have lifelong consequences.

Keira Bell case says:

This case is to challenge the existence of 'gender identity' in the Memorandum of Understanding (MoU) on Conversion Therapy document. This current document prevents clinicians from helping children suffering from gender dysphoria to be at ease in their sex.

Lets hope both cases win!

@DisappearingGirl

Great!

PS how come there are two separate crowd justice pages on this, one by Keira Bell and one by Susan Evans?

I believe there are two separate cases (both involving Keira)

Ah okay thanks! (sorry should probably have read them both properly). Have donated to both

Twelve days to go and £11675 to raise.

Excellent!

Bloody hell this sounds extremely positive!

Now where did I put that spade...

Twelve days to go and £11675 to raise. Is that for both or one or what? I'll pop off and contribute anyway but it would be useful to know how best to help.

And brilliant that an expert intervention is being allowed. The principles underpinning both cases are so vitally important.

Dug.

That’s really good news, thanks for sharing here. Will get my spade

Will funders be liable for costs like they are in libel cases?

I’ve donated to both cases, but if you were wondering which is most deserving right now, screenshot from Keira explains the Susan Evans case has less time so needs more attention. Can follow the link to see more.

twitter.com/Transgendertrd/status/1300730918710259712

Thanks for the update. I've dug again. Still can't believe it's legal to give healthy children drugs that have never been tested for their 'condition'.

@Jellyeggs

What does that mean? Intervene to support financially? Or give evidence?

I wondered this too. what does intervene mean?

I've been trying to find out what 'intervene' means and have found these points on legal sites, though I'm no expert...

In recent years, UK courts have begun to allow third party interventions, to:

• Intervene in the public interest
• Raise some issue of public importance.
• Provide an independent analysis of the human rights principles and standards
• Enable the courts to hear arguments which are of wider import than the concerns of the particular parties to the case
• Help when the courts are to decide questions of major public importance, with implications going beyond the facts of the case at hand

TGtrd say "the judge in this case has given Transgender Trend permission to intervene in support of Keira Bell"... some legal sites say that third party intervenors don’t act for the plaintiff or defendant, but offer guidance to the court directly. Wonder if there will be other third party intervenors involved in the case too.

justice.org.uk/our-work/third-party-interventions/

Just donated. I really hope this all works out. There needs to be some pushback.

Wonder if there will be other third party intervenors involved in the case too.

FindThe Truth

I have a vague recollection of Mermaids saying they were applying to intervene as well. Not seen any announcement of whether they have been allowed (would imagine they’d be shouting about it if they are). Quite possibly I’m imagining this.

@rogdmum

Wonder if there will be other third party intervenors involved in the case too.

FindThe Truth

I have a vague recollection of Mermaids saying they were applying to intervene as well. Not seen any announcement of whether they have been allowed (would imagine they’d be shouting about it if they are). Quite possibly I’m imagining this.

@rogdmum you might have seen this tweet by Mermaids in Feb saying we "may apply to intervene in this claim". I can't find any updates or other intervenors in the case.

twitter.com/Mermaids_Gender/status/1233458676150697984?

find's summary of intervening in court proceedings is accurate. It is fairly common for organisations with an interest and/or expertise to apply to the court to intervene in judicial review cases. If Mermaids did make an application to intervene I could see it being granted. I actually think it could be interesting if they did, sunlight and all that. As far as I am aware they are not big fans of GIDS and so would be in court saying that the waiting list is too long, GIDS aren't sufficiently affirming, puberty blockers aren't prescribed (early) enough. Frankly I would like a court to hear from Mermaids.

The Safe Schools Alliance case, to help support a teenage girl challenge CPS LGBT+ hate crime guidance, is also still more than £10000 short and ends in 6 days.