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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Police speak to woman about "transphobic" stickers

50 replies

stumbledin · 22/08/2020 23:34

Bit of a confusing story in the Mirror, as its not clear if the police spoke to the woman because of the stickers or because she posted on facebook supporting them i2-prod.mirror.co.uk/incoming/article22562697.ece/ALTERNATES/s615b/0_Trans-phobic-stickers.jpg

Just thought I would post as a record of what seems to be the willingness to interview women based on allegations of transphobia.

Even if they are clear why they are doing it!

“I asked what crime was committed. They said they weren’t sure, but it was to do with stickers on the seafront. I thought they’d have enough on their hands maintaining social distancing on the crowded beaches.”

www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/mum-hate-crime-probe-after-22563314

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DeaconBoo · 22/08/2020 23:55

Terribly written article, as you might expect. But the phrase 'potentially hateful' is hilarious! Really clarifies how there could be absolutely no intention of hate (or even mild dislike) - but the words used potentially might be used to convey hate. I don't know - it's clear as mud!

Is the word 'yes' potentially hateful -it could be used to answer a question like 'are you a massive racist'?

SunsetBeetch · 22/08/2020 23:58

Oh fffs!!!!

SaltyLou · 23/08/2020 00:18

am very happy to know that real crime levels are so low that police have time for this kind of crap.

Datun · 23/08/2020 03:40

The government actually asked the public what their opinion is of GRA reform. They actively sought it out.

How can publicising your opinion through stickers be 'hate' on that basis?

ThinEndoftheWedge · 23/08/2020 07:24

Bring on Harry the Owl!

BaronessWrongCrowd · 23/08/2020 07:35

Oh for pity's sake. There are a lot of people that need to grow a spine.

"Well officer the sticker hurt my feelings." Hmm
Love how the police have time to look into this but not actual crime.

ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 23/08/2020 07:41

Oh FFS.

Police probing a suspected hate crime quizzed a mum – over stickers supporting Harry Potter author JK Rowling in her row with the transgender community.

Trans activists accused Ms Ireson of trying to stoke hatred by posting the stickers.

Devon and Cornwall Police confirmed they spoke to “an individual” about stickers “of a potentially hateful nature”.

This is exactly why people are so worried about the Scottish hate crime bill. You'd be convicted for this.

BaronessWrongCrowd · 23/08/2020 07:45

What really makes me fume is that rape threats, doxxing, abuse, harassment, sending pictures of wired baseball bats are perfectly acceptable because they were sent to the 'wrong' type of women but stickers get a visit or phone call from the police.

ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 23/08/2020 08:14

No such thing as hate crime against women...

timetest · 23/08/2020 10:25

The police spoke to a woman about the stickers but they weren’t sure what, if any, crime had been committed. Must have been a slow day at the station.

RoadworksAgain · 23/08/2020 10:28

The police spoke to a woman about the stickers but they weren’t sure what, if any, crime had been committed

Between this, and the story about police refusing applications from anyone who is gender critical, I'd say it just about sums up policing in the UK at the moment.

I'm so glad that actual real crime figures are so low that they can spend time looking into this Hmm

RozWatching · 23/08/2020 10:38

The police spoke to a woman about the stickers but they weren’t sure what, if any, crime had been committed.

And if they have followed the rules, they have logged it as a hate incident and the woman could now have a non-criminal criminal record. And the trans hate stats keep rising.

dementedma · 23/08/2020 10:43

Agree with the pp on the Scottish hate crime bill. Expressing your opinion will be a criminal offence, possibly with a jail sentence if this goes through!

RadandMad · 23/08/2020 11:00

I'm just amazed that police forces haven't taken more note of the Harry Miller case outcome.

timetest · 23/08/2020 11:01

RozWatching, is there such a thing as a non criminal criminal record? This gets more farcical by the week.

Roswellconspiracy · 23/08/2020 11:03

So they don't even know what crime has been committed?

Aren't there hundrefs of sex offenders missing they need to track down?

How is there time for this when they cant keep up with investigations of paedophiles?

Not looking good for the police is jt

RozWatching · 23/08/2020 11:07

timetest

www.faircop.org.uk/fruit-of-the-poison-tree/

Barrister Sarah Phillimore writes about how an enquiry to her local police force revealed an unpleasant surprise about what they had recorded against her name and why she hopes the Supreme Court will declare the Hate Crime Operational Guidance unlawful

timetest · 23/08/2020 11:16

RozWatching I’m glad there is no one monitoring my thoughts at this precise moment.

ProfessorSlocombe · 23/08/2020 11:17

Barrister Sarah Phillimore writes about how an enquiry to her local police force revealed an unpleasant surprise about what they had recorded against her name and why she hopes the Supreme Court will declare the Hate Crime Operational Guidance unlawful

Part of the problem with being a barrister is by the time you are, you have drunk so muck kool aid, you tend follow the party line. Try and convince a barrister that the police may have lied (for example). So they can appear a tad naive.

Generally the justice system is there to serve the lawyers, barristers and judges. If society gets some sort of restitution from it, it's more by luck than judgement.

I guess I shouldn't have taken my cynic pill so early.

eurochick · 23/08/2020 11:49

As a barrister I find that comment baffling. We are trained to question things and find holes in the story being put forward. It's our actual job. Confused

howard97A · 23/08/2020 12:52

Prof slocombe: Part of the problem with being a barrister is by the time you are, you have drunk so muck kool aid, you tend follow the party line. Try and convince a barrister that the police may have lied (for example). So they can appear a tad naive.

Have you ever heard a barrister cross-examine a policeman?

ProfessorSlocombe · 23/08/2020 13:49

@howard97A

Prof slocombe: Part of the problem with being a barrister is by the time you are, you have drunk so muck kool aid, you tend follow the party line. Try and convince a barrister that the police may have lied (for example). So they can appear a tad naive.

Have you ever heard a barrister cross-examine a policeman?

Oh yes.

Which is why I personally was completely unsurprised that a barrister was surprised that the police had acted the way they did.

By all means have a go at me. But I'm not the innocent who never thought the police would act if not unlawfully, then up to the limits of lawful. That was a barrister.

MistressMounthaven · 23/08/2020 14:06

Police have to follow up a reported crime. Why else would they approach the woman, do they sit about eating donuts then think - Let's go to a random house and accuse a random woman of transphobic posters.
They're obliged to investigate it.
I'm sure they are pretty pissed at the new laws they have to follow, unless of course they really are all anti women (including the women police officers) and pro trans, as assumed on posts here.
The Gov makes the laws ie your MP. Whinge to them not the police.

ProfessorSlocombe · 23/08/2020 14:07

Police have to follow up a reported crime.

or non-crime. It seems it's all the same to them now. Ask Harry the Owl.

Roswellconspiracy · 23/08/2020 14:10

Surely they would ask the nature of the complaint and wheh fold a sticker on a lamp post said keep prisons single sex, then they could just say " not a crime" and be done with it.

Surley they don't show up with no idea whether a sticker is a crime or not?