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JKR - French national radio

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coldcolder · 20/08/2020 10:25

So there's just been a "discussion" on French radio station France Inter about JKR. No look at what she actually said, just a statement of fact that she sent an anti-Trans tweet. Apparently there's been a big reduction in Harry Potter sales compared with what might be expected at this time of year. They mentioned the "cancellation culture" for people who have "retrograde views", and that fans were anyway pissed off with her for insisting on controlling the Harry Potter world by writing sequels, which prevented them from imagining it for themselves.
I'd put money on the person reporting it never having read the tweet.

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merrymouse · 20/08/2020 10:43

fans were anyway pissed off with her for insisting on controlling the Harry Potter world by writing sequels, which prevented them from imagining it for themselves

I suspect this is a niche group of fans, given the success of the fantastic beasts films.

Anyway less than a month till the new Cormoran Strike book!

www.amazon.co.uk/Troubled-Blood-Cormoran-Strike-5/dp/0751579939/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=cormorant+strike&tag=mumsnetforu03-21&qid=1597916513&sr=8-1

ThinEndoftheWedge · 20/08/2020 11:07

Apparently there's been a big reduction in Harry Potter sales compared with what might be expected at this time of year.

Does this refer to sales in France? I thought JKR sales had gone up post her brilliant, thoughtful, factual and compassionate intervention.

Which is the conclusion for anyone with a brain who actually read what she wrote.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 20/08/2020 11:13

and that fans were anyway pissed off with her for insisting on controlling the Harry Potter world by writing sequels, which prevented them from imagining it for themselves.

Grin get a life!

Datun · 20/08/2020 11:41

I don't know why France would be completely different to the rest of the world, because meanwhile:

"1. Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone has been re-released in China and is on course to break the 1billion dollar mark, making it one of a handful of films to do so.

  1. A new Studio Tour type park opening in Japan, with sets and props like the one in London.
  1. Digital Back to Hogwarts planned, with various cast members taking part, and donations being taken for Lumos, in an attempt to keep the normal crowds of fans from King's Cross station on September the first.
  1. H&M launched a Harry Potter clothing range, loads of it sold out in days"

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/4000852-The-uncancellable-JK-Rowling

... the woman is going from strength to strength.

Perhaps the radio programme implying that women's rights are 'retrograde views', might be a little biased?

Iamagree · 20/08/2020 11:43

I heard a snippet of this - was also appalled they glossed over what she said, how she said it and why!

DickKerrLadies · 20/08/2020 12:54

fans were anyway pissed off with her for insisting on controlling the Harry Potter world

GrinGrin

Well, how very dare she!

Lisz · 20/08/2020 12:58

Interesting that Emma Watson's tweet suporting trans people has had close to a million 'likes' which is about three times as many as even the most liked of JKR's on the subject. JKR's more recent tweets have dwindled much further away still and she's lucky to get a few thousand likes. Of course there are those that would say this doesn't 'mean anything' but i'm sure it would, if the stats were the other way round and she was proving more popular than Emma Watson.

The losses she's making on her follower count have been extraordinary too; quietly she currently loses hundreds sometimes thousands of followers each day; twenty thousand this month alone. There's a bad 'vibe' about her and weirdly it's not going away.

Things like this probably don't help matters
www.nbcnews.com/feature/nbc-out/gop-senator-quotes-j-k-rowling-while-blocking-vote-lgbtq-n1231569

Datun · 20/08/2020 12:59

@DickKerrLadies

fans were anyway pissed off with her for insisting on controlling the Harry Potter world

GrinGrin

Well, how very dare she!

I mean you'd just never say something like that that loud, would you?

Nor host anyone who even hinted at it.

Just back away quietly.

DianasLasso · 20/08/2020 13:04

Re follower count and likes, quite a few people on here have noticed twitter's algorithms gaming the system - people have "liked" a JKR comment, noted how many other likes there were, then gone back the next day and found the count has fallen by a few thousand or so.

There's something funny going on, but I don't think it's that people don't like JKR any more - the book sales figures would indicate quite the reverse.

334bu · 20/08/2020 13:06

Surprisingly Twitter has been awash with tweeters complaining how their JKR likes just keep on disappearing . A bit like all the gender critical tweeters and Reddit posters who are there one day and gone the next.

Wonder why Emma doesn't have the same problem? Confused

FedUpAtHomeTroels · 20/08/2020 13:13

Of course there are those that would say this doesn't 'mean anything' but i'm sure it would, if the stats were the other way round and she was proving more popular than Emma Watson.
I say it doesn't mean a thing, seeing twitter seems to have become an echo chamber for those who are just like Emma. So hardly the general public view.

TheHeartbeat · 20/08/2020 14:15

The thing is with that Emma Watson tweet. It was a general “trans are who they are.” tweet. There was nothing about Jk Rowling in there so people don’t really have to know the situation.

Its a perfect general statement that anyone can just like away without care.

Jk Rowlings tweets were truthful but uncomfortable. Something that goes against the propaganda they try to do.

Emma Watson hasn’t even tweeted support for Mermaids after BBC dumped them. What does that say?

coldcolder · 20/08/2020 14:27

This is probably where the information comes from:
www.forbes.com/sites/emmapocock/2020/07/19/us-harry-potter-book-sales-underperforming-according-to-recent-industry-figures/#3cbc2ee3464b

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ValancyRedfern · 20/08/2020 14:28

My like on all of JKRs tweets has disappeared whenever I check them back. So I don't trust any counting of likes as being remotely accurate, even with twitter skewing to an Emma Watson-like demographic.

coldcolder · 20/08/2020 14:28

It's the same figures as the ones they talked about on the radio.

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FlamingoAndJohn · 20/08/2020 14:31

[quote Lisz]Interesting that Emma Watson's tweet suporting trans people has had close to a million 'likes' which is about three times as many as even the most liked of JKR's on the subject. JKR's more recent tweets have dwindled much further away still and she's lucky to get a few thousand likes. Of course there are those that would say this doesn't 'mean anything' but i'm sure it would, if the stats were the other way round and she was proving more popular than Emma Watson.

The losses she's making on her follower count have been extraordinary too; quietly she currently loses hundreds sometimes thousands of followers each day; twenty thousand this month alone. There's a bad 'vibe' about her and weirdly it's not going away.

Things like this probably don't help matters
www.nbcnews.com/feature/nbc-out/gop-senator-quotes-j-k-rowling-while-blocking-vote-lgbtq-n1231569[/quote]
The problem with taking the number of likes that something gets on Twitter as an indication of anything is that it’s a self selecting group.

FlamingoAndJohn · 20/08/2020 14:34

Yet Roald Dahl is on record as saying that Hitler might have had a point and no one cares.

merrymouse · 20/08/2020 14:43

Yet Roald Dahl is on record as saying that Hitler might have had a point and no one cares.

I don't think Roald Dahl ever had fans that complained he had too much control over the world of Charlie and the Chocolate Factory - or if he did they certainly weren't organising themselves into a 'community' and they weren't on Tumblr. They would have been on a list at the local police station.

LillianBland · 20/08/2020 14:44

[quote Lisz]Interesting that Emma Watson's tweet suporting trans people has had close to a million 'likes' which is about three times as many as even the most liked of JKR's on the subject. JKR's more recent tweets have dwindled much further away still and she's lucky to get a few thousand likes. Of course there are those that would say this doesn't 'mean anything' but i'm sure it would, if the stats were the other way round and she was proving more popular than Emma Watson.

The losses she's making on her follower count have been extraordinary too; quietly she currently loses hundreds sometimes thousands of followers each day; twenty thousand this month alone. There's a bad 'vibe' about her and weirdly it's not going away.

Things like this probably don't help matters
www.nbcnews.com/feature/nbc-out/gop-senator-quotes-j-k-rowling-while-blocking-vote-lgbtq-n1231569[/quote]
So can you explain why many people are complaining that their likes on JK’s tweets JK’s keep disappearing, yet there have been no similar complaints, regarding Watson’s?

Twitter, the medium that bans women for saying people can’t change sex, yet let posters remain that make death and rape threats towards women, including JK. I think we all know what is going on.

Goosefoot · 20/08/2020 15:25

@merrymouse

Yet Roald Dahl is on record as saying that Hitler might have had a point and no one cares.

I don't think Roald Dahl ever had fans that complained he had too much control over the world of Charlie and the Chocolate Factory - or if he did they certainly weren't organising themselves into a 'community' and they weren't on Tumblr. They would have been on a list at the local police station.

I feel like Dhal would not have had much time for people like that, and he might even have written something rude about them.
merrymouse · 20/08/2020 15:34

Of course there are those that would say this doesn't 'mean anything' but i'm sure it would, if the stats were the other way round and she was proving more popular than Emma Watson.

Yes, people who judge the value of any statement according to likes on twitter are deluded. Saying 'people would argue the opposite if it were the other way round' doesn't make Emma Watson's statement more profound. It's still meaningless.

littlbrowndog · 20/08/2020 15:34

I like JKR tweets

It dissapers. And so on

BilboBercow · 20/08/2020 16:00

Twitter isn't reflective of reality and funnily enough JKR is making more money than ever so I'm sure she'll bear it well enough

ArabellaScott · 20/08/2020 16:54

Twitter fads are as trustworthy as unicorn farts.

CF the last election.

Bloomburger · 20/08/2020 16:59

Only the self absorbed youth of today would complain about an author writing a sequel and it impacting on them by preventing them from imagining it themselves.

FGS. I hope they get their heads wobbled when they go out into the big wide world!