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NY Times on Idaho case

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BrandineDelRoy · 20/08/2020 05:13

The article is as biased as you might expect, but the comments give me great hope. Also, and unrelated, Tuesday was the 100th anniversary of the passage in the US of the amendment recognizing women's right to vote.

www.nytimes.com/2020/08/18/sports/transgender-athletes-womens-sports-idaho.html?searchResultPosition=5

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HoneysuckIejasmine · 20/08/2020 08:59

The comments are excellent. Polite, well reasoned, refusing to be distracted by false science, guilt tripping and cries of bigot. Well done them.

I do think sport is a watershed issue. I was talking to a lady about these issues. We both agree that trans people should live their lives just like everyone else free from discrimination etc. But then she said that should include sport too, even though she knew trans participants would have an advantage. I asked "what about the girl who would have had a spot/scholarship/Olympic title, but lost out to the trans girl?" and the penny dropped that women had something to lose here.

teawamutu · 20/08/2020 09:03

Every single reader recommended comment deplores the unfairness and sticks up for science.

Good to see. But why is no-one listening?

TweeBree · 20/08/2020 09:23

The comments are very heartening, especially when US-based social media gives the (clearly false) impression that everyone in America is for trans people invading women's spaces.

OneEpisode · 20/08/2020 09:31

On an elderly tablet I can’t see the comments, but actually I think the article is quite good? Almost GC?

I’d rather there wasn’t so much “cisgender”ing going on in the article, and there is a “Scientists have long said there is no single biological factor that determines sex” but anyone following that link can find it only leads to a Anne Fausto-Sterling opinion piece...

OneEpisode · 20/08/2020 09:34

The authors are sports journalists, and Gillian R. Brassil represented USA as a swimmer (in “artistic swimming” which I think is an event only females do...)

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