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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Judge Stops Idaho From Enacting Ban on Transgender Athletes

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howard97A · 18/08/2020 04:11

BOISE, Idaho — A federal judge on Monday issued a temporary injunction to stop Idaho from enacting a law banning transgender girls and women from participating in women’s sports while a legal challenge moves forward.

The ruling means transgender athletes wanting to participate in sports that match their gender identity can do so this fall at the college and secondary school level, The Idaho Statesman reported.

U.S. District Judge David Nye in Idaho ruled that a preliminary injunction is warranted because the plaintiffs are likely to win in court as part of a lawsuit filed by the American Civil Liberties Union challenging the constitutionality of the law.

www.nytimes.com/aponline/2020/08/17/us/ap-us-transgender-sports-ban-idaho-lawsuit.html

This is so depressing

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highame · 18/08/2020 22:23

I think public opinion may have a great deal to say about this.

Clymene · 18/08/2020 22:53

We really need to push back on this because it will impact on women's sports globally.

If you haven't signed the petition at savewomensports.com then I would urge you to do so

SetYourselfOnFire · 19/08/2020 00:17

They're going to push until women are eradicated from the public sphere, because they hate us, because they ain't us. They're not even pretending otherwise now. Somehow they've corrupted all public institutions never mind that barely anyone agrees with them. What is this, a democracy?

nepeta · 19/08/2020 01:10

ACLU has become a very odd organization when it comes to this particular field. I think they see natal women as part of the oppressor class now.

Stellwagen · 19/08/2020 01:15

My limited understanding is that it’s unconstitutional to discriminate under Title IX for Educational activities for both sex (“assigned sex” 😡) and gender identity/transgender status. Sex has been there for a while, gender stuff added by Obama.

I’d be grateful if anyone steeped in US federal law could explain how they decide when one is being used to discriminate against the other. Which trumps which?

I am in no way all that knowledgeable about US Federal Law but I can say that gender has not been added to Title IX. Obama wrote a letter threatening schools with losing their federal funding if they did not interpret "sex" as including gender identity. It was not a law and federal funding for schools is not something that can easily be stopped. About 20 states challenged the letter and a federal judge prohibited the government from enforcing it. Then Trump wrote his own letter advising schools to ignore Obama's letter.

Disappointing decision from this judge but not all that surprising.

MoaMy · 19/08/2020 09:00

I am not a lawyer (or even American) but this Idaho ruling, and one earlier case it calls on for support (Parents for Privacy v. Barr ) appears to say that despite the constitution and Title IX, trans identification makes girls rights to female-only spaces completely null and void, even when it comes to "intimate exposure". It's also notable I think that the court made a really big deal over misgendering.

And from what I could find, the Parents for Privacy v. Barr case has largely gone under the radar, but relatively neutral and pro-trans sources characterize it as yet another simple bathroom case, so it's interesting how quickly it came to be used to support the erosion of women's sports.

Excerpts from the Idaho ruling:

"The Proposed Intervenors claim a significant and protected interest in having and maintaining “female-only competitions and a competitive environment shielded from physiologically advantaged male participants to whom they stand to lose.” Dkt. 30-1, at 7; see also Dkt. 52, at 4 n. 1. Plaintiffs characterize this interest as a mere desire to exclude transgender students from single-sex sports, which is not significantly protectable. Dkt. 45, at 10–11. As Plaintiffs note, the Ninth Circuit has held cisgender students do not have a legally protectable interest in excluding transgender students from single-sex spaces. Parents for Privacy v. Barr, 949 F.3d 1210, 1228 (9th Cir. 2020) (rejecting Title IX and constitutional claims of cisgender students based on having to share single sex restrooms and locker facilities with transgender students)."

"Finally, Plaintiffs argue intervention could prejudice the adjudication of their claims because counsel for the Proposed Intervenors have a history of utilizing misgendering tactics that will delay and impair efficient resolution of litigation. For instance, the Motion to Intervene is replete with references to Lindsay using masculine pronouns and refers to other transgender women by their former male names. The Court is concerned by this conduct, as other courts have denounced such misgendering as degrading, mean, and potentially mentally devastating to transgender individuals. T.B., Jr. ex rel. T.B. v. Prince George’s Cty. Bd. of Educ., 897 F.3d 566, 577 (4th Cir. 2018) (describing student’s harassment of transgender female teacher by referring to her with male gender pronouns as “pure meanness.”); Hampton v. Baldwin, 2018 WL 5830730, at *2 (S.D. Ill. Nov. 7, 2018) (referencing expert testimony that “misgendering transgender people can be degrading, humiliating, invalidating, and mentally devastating.”)"

From: www.aclu.org/legal-document/hecox-v-little-decision-granting-preliminary-injunction?redirect=legal-document/hecox-v-little-motion-granting-preliminary-injunction

Excerpt from the Parents for Privacy v. Barr case which was referenced in the Idaho ruling:

"We agree with the district court and hold that there is no Fourteenth Amendment fundamental privacy right to avoid all risk of intimate exposure to or by a transgender person who was assigned the opposite biological sex at birth. We also hold that a policy that treats all students equally does not discriminate based on sex in violation of Title IX, and that the normal use of privacy facilities does not constitute actionable sexual harassment under Title IX just because a person is transgender. We hold further that the Fourteenth Amendment does not provide a fundamental parental right to determine the bathroom policies of the public schools to which parents may send their children, either independent of the parental right to direct the upbringing and education of their children or encompassed by it. Finally, we hold that the school district’s policy is rationally related to a legitimate state purpose, and does not infringe Plaintiffs’ First Amendment free exercise rights because it does not target religious conduct."

law.justia.com/cases/federal/appellate-courts/ca9/18-35708/18-35708-2020-02-12.html

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