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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Scottish youth parliament survey

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Aesopfable · 18/08/2020 00:47

If you know anyone under 25 to fill in this survey full of biased and leading question including self ID to changing the ‘legal gender on your birth certificate’ (mine doesn’t mention gender) or if you think that too much packaging in supermarkets is a good thing and to be encouraged.

www.surveygizmo.eu/s3/90236199/From-Scotland-s-Young-People-SYP-s-Manifesto-2021-2026?fbclid=IwAR1vw4vfKJHhkb06cS5t6ETO8CuHicJRO2CgRM7nOOdYUbqwlhR1ZPrVCZo

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Igneococcus · 18/08/2020 06:24

I'll get my two to do it, they both know the difference between sex and gender.

NonnyMouse1337 · 18/08/2020 08:21

Thanks for sharing the link, Aesopfable.

Definitely a good idea for young people in Scotland aged 12-25 to fill in the survey if they can - and to agree/disagree with the various issues stated.

Really important for those young people who are gender critical or who oppose self-id to indicate their lack of support for the proposed ideas to make it easier to change birth certificates or to legally recognise non-binary identities.
The trendy narrative is that only old, bigoted people oppose these sort of 'young, progressive' ideas, so it's crucial that young people who aren't keen on these proposals take the opportunity to make their voices heard.

ArabellaScott · 18/08/2020 08:50

Surely it's your age identity, not your biological age, that matters? I feel about 23. On a good day.

Aesopfable · 18/08/2020 09:26

Most of the questions are so leading as to be meaningless. They also suggest that things should happen that already are. Or for example the question 'do you agree schools should finance school uniforms for children in poverty' (paraphrased as I forget the wording). My answer would be 'no' because this responsibility currently lies with the local authority and I think that us the appropriate place for it rather than placing a financial burden on individual school's.

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Aesopfable · 18/08/2020 09:29

But a wider question about youth parliaments. How protected are children/youth who hold a contrary opinion? Also this is a direct reflection of indoctrination in schools. How much truly independent thinking goes on there?

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NonnyMouse1337 · 18/08/2020 10:19

I don't know if the survey has space for free form text at the end for respondents to mention the poor wording of questions and the nature of them.

It might be a good opportunity for a parent to sit down with their child while filling in the survey and discuss the topics - why the questions are poorly designed, how to apply critical thinking to what's being asked, whether the question is misleading or inaccurate (to use your example of school uniforms being handled by local authority or individual schools), might it be a good idea to research a topic or proposed idea a bit further before answering based on emotions or because it simply sounds like a 'good' thing and so on.

I agree that a wider conversation needs to be had about the purpose and role of youth parliaments, how ideas are formed and policies proposed, how transparent the process actually is and whether there are strict guidelines around lobbying (the Denton's report makes it clear that trans and gender identity groups are targeting youth parliaments), and also if it is genuinely possible for young people to freely express contrary opinions and voice concerns / opposition on contentious topics.

fatblackcatspaw · 18/08/2020 20:30

i've just shared it to a feminist forum hope they will pass it to the youngies

UnaOfStormhold · 18/08/2020 20:35

I feel this Yes Minister clip should be compulsory viewing on surveys:

Melroses · 18/08/2020 21:20

I think they should rerun that series. Enlightening Grin

ArabellaScott · 18/08/2020 22:45

Good clip, Una.

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