😢 18yo male detransitioner who transitioned at 7, took blockers and cross-hormones

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This is dreadful. I don't know where he's from or when this was posted. twitter.com/bloominanna/status/1293922207152955392?s=20

Are there any reliable stats on rates of detransitioning?

We have an 8 year old girl that dresses as a boy in our school. She is known as a she - my DC just say she is a tomboy. She also keeps her girl name.

She does wear all boy clothes including boy uniform (shorts not skirts). Her parents don't talk about it - why should they? Other closer friends say she is a girl just likes boys things/clothes. Most of her friends are girls not boys.

I can't imagine that little girl trying or being put on any sort of hormones!

I saw something on twitter (need to go back and have a proper look). remember the case in Texas (?) where the parents were having a horrible divorce and the mum decided that one of her big twins was a girl? Neither parent covered themselves in glory (dad a cereal dinner and mum just batsh*t) and the judge declared the child to be allowed to remain a boy.

A new ruling (seems to have been rushed through) now says that the big is now to be called Luna, live as a girl and dad has to pay $5k a month to the ex wife. The child is about 7 now. I remember a thread about it on here.

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I saw something on twitter (need to go back and have a proper look). remember the case in Texas (?) where the parents were having a horrible divorce and the mum decided that one of her big twins was a girl? Neither parent covered themselves in glory (dad a cereal dinner and mum just batsh*t) and the judge declared the child to be allowed to remain a boy.

A new ruling (seems to have been rushed through) now says that the big is now to be called Luna, live as a girl and dad has to pay $5k a month to the ex wife. The child is about 7 now. I remember a thread about it on here.

I saw this case on fb the other day - Standing for Women page someone called Erin Brewer. It all sounded very troubling.

How can anyone read stories like that and then think we are the bad guys.

Its just heart breaking.

And this is what happens when every dr and every therapist has to ignore their instincts and affirm regardless because of ideology pushed by not scientists, not drs, but peole with vested interests in ensuring they have a steady stream of new clients. And by people who haven't done a damn thing to their bodies besides grow their hair and couldn't possibly know any of this was " safe"

There are going to be a lot of angry young adults in a few years time. Really angry - ‘I was a child - you were supposed to protect me!’.

I'm hoping to see lots of people being sued. Bring it on.

.... dad a cereal dinner...

Go on - I'm dying to know.

Haha autocorrect knows me well (cereal lier)

I'm hoping to see lots of people being sued. Bring it on

In a way I don't want to see that either but thats becuase i also have no doubt that people will take advantage of that too . Entire firms dedicated to milking money from the victims. Or organisations thinking that they can just pay them off.

I would prefer to see acknowledgement they fucked up and have ruined lives and proper help and support funded and set up.

Sadly we will never learn. It’s those who benefit who need to be sued - check out big pharma.

Money.....when enough people sue, it will stop

We have an 8 year old girl that dresses as a boy in our school. She is known as a she - my DC just say she is a tomboy. She also keeps her girl name.

She does wear all boy clothes including boy uniform (shorts not skirts). Her parents don't talk about it - why should they? Other closer friends say she is a girl just likes boys things/clothes. Most of her friends are girls not boys.

This is such an unhealthy attitude. This girl dresses in her clothes, not boys clothes. I have a 5yo who sounds very similar to this girl, and children who call her a tomboy or ask why she is wearing 'boy clothes' generally come from very sexist parents.

I also have an older child who is transgender.

My child has been trans for coming on for a decade now, so before being trans is what it is now.

Back then it was difficult, there was mental health help available, although I had to fight for my child to have access to separate facilities to change and go to the toilet, they were made available eventually.

Now there is practically no help available unless you go down the medicalised route. They literally withhold mental health help, because it isn't seen as a mental health issue anymore.

2 appointments in have them offering these drugs.

As a parent who's child was self harming, suicidal and depressed I can 100% understand the parents who take the medicalised route to access further help.

We get told blockers are just thinking time for your child. Who wouldn't take that option with a severely depressed child and doctors touting this as a cure for their depression?

I have done a lot of research on all the treatments, operations, hormones and read everything from those who were totally happy with surgery to detransitioners, and decided not to go down the medicalised route for my child, although now they are an adult they are exploring this for themselves and it's very likely this is what they will do.

I really don't blame a lot of parents for going down this route for their child though. It's the doctors that need to be looked at for being so persistent in offering this as an option with no alternatives.

It should be a difficult process to go through imo, making things 'easier' really hasn't made things easier at all. It has just delayed the issues, made the physical issues easier in the short term, but heartbreakingly permanent for the long term.

Sadly not - how many things like this do we need to see happen?

Plus all the social damage that will have been done (agenda in schools, workplaces, local councils...). It’s changing society for worse - less accepting, less inclusive, more violent, more misogynistic, more homophobic... who benwfits?

when enough people sue, it will stop

I actually don't think It will. If they allowed themselves once to be "trained" by lobby groups and activists then it will happen again. Until anywhere wakes up and realises that decisions need to be based on science/facts/reality not who can make the most noise on twitter then it will all happen all over again

The only was this will stop is when the big law forms and consultancies find a shiny new horse to back. The nonsense I see in these businesses in supporting this hook like and sinker - and of course it’s all about their bottom line.

I almost threw my laptop out of the window when I saw a social media post from one such international organisation thanking the Ts for starting the stonewall riots.

I would be interested to see if any of the parents - usually fathers - who have been shut out of decision making regarding children and hormone treatments, appeal those legal decisions in light of the significant retraction of the findings of the article in the American Journal of Psychiatry. I

The only was this will stop is when the big law forms and consultancies find a shiny new horse to back

And whats the betting this shiny new horse will be something else that's damaginh or harmful or only benefits a very small froup of people at the expense of everyone else.

We need people held properly accountable for completely flouting the law and for their treatment of everyone that raised concerns etc

And for being complicit in everything that happened.

They did dabble with BLM but I guess it wasn’t attractive enough for them.

Maybe we need safguarding training and deprogramming for companies particularly marketing teams to be compulsory.

Or behaviour agreements signed and adhered to

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Haha autocorrect knows me well (cereal lier)

Ah!

(Those bastards that claim they've had a healthy breakfast but we know damn well it's Cap'n Crunch.)

They literally withhold mental health help, because it isn't seen as a mental health issue anymore.

I find that this very disturbing that this is one effect of moving it from being a mental health issue. The 'conversion therapy' side of it is also very disturbing.... in that clinicians are now not allowed to discover underlying issues that might be causal to treat these to see if it alleviates GD. What a mess.

DifficultPifcult What a lot of hard choices for you and your family. I hope that what ever happens, your kids will be happy.

I wore shorts to school, I also wore a uniform dress occasionally. I cannot understand why it is implied that girls are transboys for choosing to wear shorts if that is an option within the school policy. it is so very regressive.

@ BaronEssoStation 😂 honestly I only have a single piece of whole meal toast with a scrape of soya margarine... (when they mean a washing up bowl of crunchy nut cornflakes with sugar and carnation milk).

Now there is practically no help available unless you go down the medicalised route. They literally withhold mental health help, because it isn't seen as a mental health issue anymore.
I'm sorry to hear about your difficulties difficult. It does seem that the TRAs who campaigned and persuaded the WHO to reclassify transgender from being a MH condition have made it actually impossible for children to have any mental health treatment at all and affirmation is the only possible route to take - either that or be left with no help.
This may well have been pointed out before but my brain has only just made this connection!

7!!! I really feel for him, he's been badly failed by those responsible.