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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Emma Watson retweets Rebecca Solnit’s story

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TheHeartbeat · 13/08/2020 09:54

mobile.twitter.com/EmmaWatson

2nd thing you should see.

“She going out sad.” as they would say in HipHop.

So everyone safety should depend on a public figure’s guarantee that no harm will befall upon you.

The responses to the tweet are gold however.
Hey, atleast the support for LGB in Poland looks good.

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Lordamighty · 13/08/2020 10:15

She couldn’t be more stupid if she tried.

Madanaa · 13/08/2020 10:25

Karen White?
The amount of misogynistic 'suck my ladydick' and violent rape tweets aimed at JKR?
The fact that trans women have the same offending patterns of men?

Yeah no threat at all...

Rebecca Solnit annd Emma Watson really are dense arent they?

Madanaa · 13/08/2020 10:29

The responses to her tweet are reassuring though

Siablue · 13/08/2020 10:35

I did not know who Rebecca Solnit was before this but she is doing the tube map with Emma Watson.

The comments are interesting, I wonder if she has taken any of it on board after the response to her statement the other day about shoes and running for president.

queenofknives · 13/08/2020 10:46

I'm disappointed as I like Solnit's writing and always enjoyed her piece on mansplaining. It is really strange how this one issue seems to expose people. I don't have to agree with her politics to appreciate her writing talent but it does make me question her insight and intelligence, not to mention her integrity. I'm not convinced that writers who can't see through the misogyny (or worse, perpetuate it) are going to be writing anything worth reading. It makes me think they just don't have the necessary insight into people or a radar for the truth.

FloralBunting · 13/08/2020 10:50

Well of course she did. In her world women can run for prime minister and the toughest choices they face are heels or flat shoes. The oblivious privilege is sickening.

AvocadoBathroom · 13/08/2020 10:55

Will they cut JKR out of Kings Cross on their crappy map?
Emma Watson is vile.

CourtneyLurve · 13/08/2020 11:04

The article was intended to be addressed to JK Rowling, but the author backed down because Rowling is 'litigious'. If what Rebecca is writing is the truth, then why would she be afraid of libel action?

Emma Watson retweets Rebecca Solnit’s story
RadicalFern · 13/08/2020 11:08

"a high-profile cis-gender feminist lady"

My first thought: who is this?

OvaHere · 13/08/2020 11:32

It's just another form of women shut up and be nice even when it's not in your best interests to do so.

I don't know who she is but what I take from that post above is that she is all about herself and not other women (unless they are the penis kind).

nauticant · 13/08/2020 11:33

If what Rebecca is writing is the truth, then why would she be afraid of libel action?

To be fair, there have been plenty of libel actions launched in the UK against people telling the truth. When someone is aggrieved enough and well-funded enough, under UK defamation laws they can have you in the courts and at risk of facing ruinous costs unless you back down, no matter where the truth might lie. The McLibel case is very much the exception to the rule.

EverardDigby · 13/08/2020 11:34

I've just used this word in the Brene Brown thread, but that tweet is horribly fawning. And stupid.

OvaHere · 13/08/2020 11:42

This is an older article but offers up some background on this high profile, cis-gender, feminist lady.

thewalrus.ca/why-i-dont-read-rebecca-solnit/

CourtneyLurve · 13/08/2020 13:07

[quote OvaHere]This is an older article but offers up some background on this high profile, cis-gender, feminist lady.

thewalrus.ca/why-i-dont-read-rebecca-solnit/[/quote]
Ooh this is great. Someone tweet it at Emma.

peadarm · 13/08/2020 13:19

“ The fact that trans women have the same offending patterns of men“
Statistically I expect trans women populations compare very badly to women, but what are the figures compared to general male populations when it comes to sex offences?

SerenityNowwwww · 13/08/2020 15:25

Nah - c** and feminist down sit together unless it’s ‘anti’-feminist

JoodyBlue · 13/08/2020 20:24

I engaged in an extended discussion on this article on FB with a group of people who are friends of someone on my friend list whom I don't know well. Alongside a call to "educate myself" and having been called "curious bigot" for asking for elucidations, specifically the "what is a woman?" question. It became apparent that the participants in the discussion were part of a men's rights group. Three things stood out as notable concerns in this discussion: historic feminists were seen as terrorists; women's sports apparently needs a "shake-up", women must be recognised as equally capable of violence to men. The poster put up a video for an organisation called "Mankind". I should say that I don't have any issue with men's concerns being discussed and addressed. What was chilling was that ultimately me - arguing for feminism was seen as obviously the enemy. I had not appreciated the extent of the misogyny among some young men. I do feel shaken. I do still feel that having a sustained conversation on the subject online was the right thing. But good grief it takes its toll standing up against the BS - I applaud those who do it regularly.

ScrimpshawTheSecond · 13/08/2020 21:05

I have sometimes enjoyed Solnit's work, but 'The mother of all questions ' was so breathtakingly unaware about the realities of motherhood I have gone off her considerably.

ItsLateHumpty · 13/08/2020 23:32

[quote OvaHere]This is an older article but offers up some background on this high profile, cis-gender, feminist lady.

thewalrus.ca/why-i-dont-read-rebecca-solnit/[/quote]
On Rebecca Solnit

That identity also stems from the way social media has transformed the feminist movement, reducing a complex body of work to a series of memes, hashtags, and Instagrammable pics. There is now a certain type of female solidarity—call it “pop feminism”—that addresses only topics we can safely agree on. Gendered violence is typically bad. Marriage equality, on the other hand, is good. Sexual assault: bad. Property rights for all: good. In this way, pop feminism taps into a largely acknowledged collective experience online (#EverydaySexism, #RapeCultureIsWhen, #WhyIStayed). It recognizes that awful things happen to women and contends that they shouldn’t. It believes in empowerment and tells women that “breaking the silence” will effect large-scale change. Pop feminism is the thinking behind certain publications asking women to “share” in the comments section or “contribute to the conversation,” without ever explaining what that conversation will actually produce once it’s over. It makes feminism more accessible than ever, while simultaneously trivializing the cause

On a gifted feminist writer eg Jia Tolentino

In the hands of a gifted feminist writer, however, the essay form can force readers to question their assumptions and also their lives. Consequently, such writing doesn’t often win the easy praise that Solnit’s work does. Take, for example, Jia Tolentino’s 2016 piece for Jezebel about Thomas Sayers Ellis. Last year, Ellis, a poet and a visiting professor at the Iowa Writing Workshop, was caught up in a series of grievances regarding his violent, abusive treatment of women, some of whom were his students. Alleged victims posted anonymously on the VIDA: Women in Literary Arts website, accusing him of various kinds of misconduct. Disgraced, Ellis left his teaching position—one of the most prominent examples of what Tolentino calls the takedown of an “important, inappropriate literary man.”

In her essay, Tolentino explores the various sides of the Sayers Ellis controversy—legal, social, personal, emotional. She speaks to witnesses and to victims, and while she believes them, she doesn’t stop there. “Believing a woman, anyway,” she writes, “isn’t the same as supporting her.”
Tolentino’s essay raised the level of conversation around sexual assault by asking uncomfortable questions that deserve answers.

Ouch!

Ooh this is great. Someone tweet it at Emma.

I’d say Emma is a pop feminist, and I’d guess she won’t read beyond a 140 characters.

Jux · 14/08/2020 00:39

Do you remember in the olden Golden days of the 80s when we could describe people as "nice, but dim". It seems increasingly now that we can only describe people as "dim".

Poor fictional Hermione, such a nice girl. Her memory is tainted by someone who could only pretend to be her.

YouWereGr8InLittleMenstruators · 14/08/2020 04:33

When will EW's feminism centre women? C'mon, Em!

BlueBrush · 16/08/2020 22:32

I'd never heard of Rebecca Solnit. I read that article and I was assuming she was a guest columnist. I can't believe she gets paid actual money to write. I mean, jobs in journalism are really competitive, yes? Her argumentation is so so poor.

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