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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

The Sports Bra Project - so the Guardian *does* know what a woman/girl is!

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Crapster · 07/08/2020 06:31

Article here

And a very interesting quote: “Donated equipment can often end up being prioritised to programs geared towards boys or men, but a sports bra is something that can’t be appropriated in this way. We know it’ll go to girls and women.”

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Longlockdown · 07/08/2020 07:20

Er...

drspouse · 07/08/2020 07:30
Grin
DickKerrLadies · 07/08/2020 08:00

"We know it’ll go to girls and women."

Ahh bless! I remember when I was able to believe this.

GoshHashana · 07/08/2020 08:09

"can't be appropriated"

In my experience, there's literally nothing that can't be appropriated by the TRA agenda...

ErrolTheDragon · 07/08/2020 08:10

Leaving the Guardian's normally muddled views aside, what a sensible initiative. I've said before, a good sports bra can be a tool of women's liberation. The points Dwyer-Shick are making are very good

^ For Dwyer-Shick, The Sports Bra Project does not just highlight the barriers of entry for women and girls in sport itself, it also exposes the lack of women at decision-making levels, where lived experience can affect the way sport is organised and resourced from the top down.
“I worked at a youth club where there were six directors and I was the only woman, even though more than a third of our athletes were female,” she says. “Getting coaching gear that fit and having requests like feminine products in medical kits, being taken seriously can be difficult when you’re the only voice in the room.
“This lack of representation at the decision-making and leadership level in sports can mean that topics which are part of everyday life for girls and women like sports bras and tampons are overlooked or seen as ‘special interest’.^

Lack of women at the decision making level does of course have all sorts of impacts (iirc the IOC committee of 12 which set testosterone levels so high had 8 or 9 members with Y chromosomes...).

Roswellconspiracy · 07/08/2020 09:49

I dont think I've seen the word woman appear in an article so many times.

Someone must be screwing right now...

SirSamuelVimesBlackboardMonito · 07/08/2020 09:50

Oh, the TRAs will just insist they need a sports bra too, so they can stuff it with socks.

Mumsnut · 07/08/2020 10:14

Yes. The Guardian automatically assumes the most important type of women is included in that sentence , whatever the person who said it intended

NearlyGranny · 07/08/2020 10:24

Perhaps Samantha Lewis could have a quiet word with OJ and help him understand about women and girls?

Or will we see her issuing a forced apology in a few days?

TalkingtoLangClegintheDark · 07/08/2020 13:19

That’s a lovely, heartwarming article about a fantastic initiative, in the old tradition of the Guardian - makes me feel misty eyed for the days when I trusted them to speak up for women and girls.

WeeBisom · 07/08/2020 14:36

This is why I think the belief that TWAW is actually a very shallow belief (in the sense it doesn’t impact ones overall belief system). If the guardian really believes TWAW they wouldn’t abandon the “assigned female at birth” or “people with breasts” kind of language. But it’s so easy to slip into reality based talk! I think like everyone else they know fine well what a woman is, and have to actively pinch and remind themselves of the trans ideology of the day.

boreda11 · 07/08/2020 19:28

A wonderful initiative, thank you for sharing this.

Crapster · 07/08/2020 21:44

I just liked not only the initiative itself, but as @WeeBisom said, the way it slips back into reality-based language and somehow seems to have slipped under the radar... I don't see a huge backlash, or blue haired screamers calling for a retraction and a recognition that not all women need bras and how dare anyone say that men appropriate things meant to benefit women etc etc. It's rather refreshing.

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