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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

HCPs - midwives, nurses, doctors - do you really use the term "assigned F/M at birth"?

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GreenUp · 06/08/2020 02:01

Just wondering if any HCPs working in healthcare can explain whether or not the term "assigned male at birth" and "assigned female at birth" are commonly used by HCPs in everyday environments? If so is this a recommended term, a new addition or has it long been used?

I was under the impression that HCPs observe sex at birth based on genital inspection and thought that the concept of "assignment" might happen in a few intersex cases but perhaps this is out of date?

If this is a term you use in everyday practise and if there is some process of assignment involved, could anyone point me to the relevant guidelines, textbook and training etc. used by NHS staff?

I was reading on a forum where people were suggesting that cervical screening targeting "people assigned female at birth" would be an appropriate term to use in place of "people with a cervix" as they said it describes women and wouldn't be insulting to trans people but I thought this is odd as I don't know anyone outside of the trans community who uses this term to describe themselves - but if it is commonplace in the NHS I suppose I will need to update my vocabulary.

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RosieHen · 06/08/2020 23:07

(Ooft. Way too many 'nevers' there)

GoodyWoolf · 07/08/2020 08:35

We also had the NIPT, for our second child after several losses and we were told that she was a girl at 10 weeks pregnant as well. With my son we were told at 20 weeks during a scan. We never had a surprise at birth and neither child had their sex assigned at birth.

Lamahaha · 07/08/2020 08:39

It's a bit ridiculous, isn't it, the "Assigned at Birth" thing, since as people said many/most parents find out during their scans and are told then.
So if anything it should "Assigned at Scan", not at birth, in the most cases.
But of course it is observed, not assigned, and everyone, everyone, knows it's because of external genitals.

Imnobody4 · 07/08/2020 10:04

I'm a bit disappointed, I imagined a moment of silent contemplation followed by ' I now assign this baby male/female.'

NearlyGranny · 07/08/2020 11:30

"Assigned" sounds just like the sorting hat, doesn't it? You pop it on at age 11, not knowing what it will say, and instead of announcing its decision instantly, it turns out you can actually influence it if you feel strongly about not wanting to be a Slytherin, say.

So perhaps JKR really does bear some responsibility for all this crazy. Could it be that the TRAs are all just HP fans who imbibed magical thinking in their formative years? Transitioning is just their polyjuice potion, but it doesn't work on everyone so they get cross until people pretend it does.

TheGoogleMum · 07/08/2020 12:39

Nah I don't work with babies at all but in a cancer related area and we just use men and women. Breast cancer is breast cancer (occasionally call the treatment site chest wall instead if post mastectomy as the breast tissue is no longer there). Prostate cancer signage mentions men a lot. Transsexuals have been rare in my career so far tbh. When I gave birth I didn't particularly notice ungendered language (I hadn't had my eyes opened to it yet) but i didn't know sex prior to birth and was told I had a girl, nobody assigned it she had female genitals and thats how we knew. Its funny how everyone knows what to look for to 'assign' sex.

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