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Times Article -bid to censor Academics in Scotland

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AgitationOfTrying · 02/08/2020 10:26

Hi, article in the Times today may be of interest, apologies if already posted

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/cc2fc99c-d419-11ea-867d-b1ae14c05a8c?shareToken=c9da7073d2e9526c9c83be35deeada0c

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ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 02/08/2020 10:47

It's really sad that I find that utterly unsurprising....

highame · 02/08/2020 10:50

Pity it's not more prominent as someone pointed out. Comments are also good

Cailleach1 · 02/08/2020 11:14

I was speaking to someone about the way women is being hijacked and the possible effects on hard won rights. I mentioned sports. They asked why sportswomen weren't speaking out about this. Indeed there were comments of support from some women in the competition I referred to. I tried to explain that it may be difficult to say anything for a couple of reasons.

  1. They may be worried about being attacked as being hateful for calling it out and losing their place on their team or financial aid. Martina Navratilova and Sharron Davies can call it out as they are retired so are not in this position.
  1. I think women/girls have been taught appropriating femaleness as an identity is freedom. Not freedom for women of course. Just the appropriator. It is another regarding action (John Stuart Mill) against women and the only accepted view is women should be vilified and shut down if they call it out.

Reading the above link, what sees to be the case ( to me in any event) is that there are women who are speaking out, but are muted, censored and shut down.

Cailleach1 · 02/08/2020 11:17

p.s. I know that the subject of that link is an academic peer reviewed article and not just general calling out.

sultanasofa · 03/08/2020 08:21

Thanks for the share link. I have so much admiration for Murray Blackburn and Mackenzie.

MoltenLasagne · 03/08/2020 08:34

I find it very interesting that the person who made the internal complaint about the article is someone who would not normally be involved in reviewing. Is this going to be like The Guardian where IT and support staff were trying to tell the news side what they were allowed to report on?

Siablue · 03/08/2020 11:11

There is this in the Guardian. Infuriatingly Jo Grady’s response to the survey is to critique it and say most academics are opposed to freedom.

www.theguardian.com/world/2020/aug/03/uk-lecturers-strongly-support-colleagues-academic-freedom

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