James Dreyfus calling for support/action

[Comefromaway]

Regarding twitter conversations about underage consent.
It’s fine up on my feed as a celebrity I follow liked his tweet.

twitter.com/dreyfusjames/status/1288810200410066946?s=21

[Skyliner001]

@RoyalCorgi

Neurotrash - it's very encouraging to see that the Mail is planning a big investigative piece on this. Really looking forward to what they come up with.

The daily mail? Dread to think. Vile paper. They hate and shame women all the time.

[FloralBunting]

If you can convince a bastion of moral righteousness like the Guardian to cover it, go right ahead.

[wellbehavedwomen]

The daily mail? Dread to think. Vile paper. They hate and shame women all the time.

Well yes, @Skyliner001, it would be lovely if the Guardian were remotely interested in exposing the tolerance towards paedophiles on major online platforms. But they're seemingly too busy condemning female-centred feminism, while remaining silent on eg Cologne, to find the time - which is an interesting reflection, perhaps, on which papers truly "hate and shame women all the time". Right now, the Guardian do it as much as the Mail. They just come at it from another angle.

Personally, I'm happy we have mainstream rightwing press in this country, because when you don't, that makes space for the likes of Breitbart. If you don't allow for the possibility that people who don't think as you do may just want access to the news, too, then you create a market for extremist hatemongers, which is what has happened in the USA.

And when it comes to this subject I don't really care who exposes it, just as long as someone does.

[Skyliner001]

@wellbehavedwomen

The daily mail? Dread to think. Vile paper. They hate and shame women all the time.

Well yes, *@Skyliner001*, it would be lovely if the Guardian were remotely interested in exposing the tolerance towards paedophiles on major online platforms. But they're seemingly too busy condemning female-centred feminism, while remaining silent on eg Cologne, to find the time - which is an interesting reflection, perhaps, on which papers truly "hate and shame women all the time". Right now, the Guardian do it as much as the Mail. They just come at it from another angle.

Personally, I'm happy we have mainstream rightwing press in this country, because when you don't, that makes space for the likes of Breitbart. If you don't allow for the possibility that people who don't think as you do may just want access to the news, too, then you create a market for extremist hatemongers, which is what has happened in the USA.

And when it comes to this subject I don't really care who exposes it, just as long as someone does.

Yeah, no.
I'd still rather it was a credible paper. That would've better.

I'm not going to change my mind on that. Have a nice day.

[IloveJKRowling]

That they can wax lyrical all the live long day about paedophilia, and that is entirely acceptable, as long as they ain't touching kids

they claim on twitter they aren't

paedophiles lie

[wellbehavedwomen]

@Skyliner001 so would I. So would most of us - the women here skew very much to the left. But that doesn't mean I won't accept whichever paper is willing to report on the story if the end result is to make people aware of the organised growth of paedophilia, and I assume you're on the same page with that.

We also need a range of views. Absolutely this would be better from Times or Telegraph - a broadsheet - if the Graun won't touch it, but it's better from the Mail than nobody. And the Mail has a massively higher readership than anyone else, as it happens. That matters, too.

[DidoLamenting]

The Mail and The Mail on Sunday recently have shown far more credibility on women's and children's issues (not just trans issues) than The Guardian has.

[DidoLamenting]

So would most of us - the women here skew very much to the left

I don't. I'm utterly fed up of the left and their sanctimonious assumption that being on the left automatically makes them good people.

[BaronEssoStation]

Dread to think..

Nevertheless, I urge you to try it sometime.

[BaronEssoStation]

I agree with those two posts above by Dido.

[wellbehavedwomen]

@DidoLamenting

So would most of us - the women here skew very much to the left

I don't. I'm utterly fed up of the left and their sanctimonious assumption that being on the left automatically makes them good people.

I'm afraid I'm coming round to your point of view. The Telegraph is vastly more feminist than the Guardian, for a start. But the reality is that most women on this board have been left all our lives. The sheer scale of the misogyny was disguised by lip service, in the past. Now it's out and proud and you'd need to be working hard at denial to miss it.

[wellbehavedwomen]

@DidoLamenting I do think the Mail is less credible than the right leaning broadsheets though. Tabloids tend to be.

[Datun]

Yeah, no.
I'd still rather it was a credible paper. That would've better.

I'm not going to change my mind on that. Have a nice day.


What is interesting is exactly how many reasons some people can come up with for shutting down women who talk about this.

J. K. Rowling is too rich.

Posie Parker is too outspoken and gobby.

The Daily Mail is too right wing.

Or you're too white, too middle-class, too straight.

The only people who are allowed to talk about this are those with no voice, no reach, no readership, no power and, in terms of influence, no chance.

Funny that.

[MarDhea]

What is interesting is exactly how many reasons some people can come up with for shutting down women who talk about this.

J. K. Rowling is too rich.

Posie Parker is too outspoken and gobby.

The Daily Mail is too right wing.

Or you're too white, too middle-class, too straight.

The only people who are allowed to talk about this are those with no voice, no reach, no readership, no power and, in terms of influence, no chance.

Funny that.

This reads like a poem, Datun. I could frame it. 👏

[DrDavidBanner]

@Datun

Yeah, no.
I'd still rather it was a credible paper. That would've better.

I'm not going to change my mind on that. Have a nice day.

What is interesting is exactly how many reasons some people can come up with for shutting down women who talk about this.

J. K. Rowling is too rich.

Posie Parker is too outspoken and gobby.

The Daily Mail is too right wing.

Or you're too white, too middle-class, too straight.

The only people who are allowed to talk about this are those with no voice, no reach, no readership, no power and, in terms of influence, no chance.

Funny that.

That about sums it up