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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

The Baroness and MP Nadia Whittome

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Lamahaha · 24/07/2020 18:30

twitter.com/NadiaWhittomeMP/status/1286357272025796608

Seems this all kicked off by an article by Whittome in the Independent,
in support of trans rights.

www.independent.co.uk/voices/trans-rights-equality-gender-recognition-politics-a9635021.html

But any public discourse on protecting and advancing the rights of trans people must be firmly grounded in these real-life experiences in order to resist hysteria, abstraction and misinformation. We cannot allow transgender rights to be reduced to statistics, an academic subject or a series of hypothetical scenarios. Everything said on the subject of trans identities has a direct impact on real people and their families.

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Lamahaha · 24/07/2020 18:35

Whittome's Twitter thread:

twitter.com/NadiaWhittomeMP/status/1286357272025796608

We must not fetishise “debate” as though debate is itself an innocuous, neutral act. The very act of debate in these cases is an effective rollback of assumed equality and a foot in the door for doubt and hatred.

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Alltheprettyseahorses · 24/07/2020 18:36

Karen White isn't hypothetical. Nor is Katie Dolatowski. I've seen something about a forest too - that may not be hypothetical either. The woman is a dangerous, ignorant fool playing games with women's safety.

Lamahaha · 24/07/2020 18:38

Sorry, I posted the wrong Twitter thread in the OP -- in which she raised concerns and invited Whittome to meet. I seem to have lost that thread, or it has been deleted!

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Lamahaha · 24/07/2020 18:39

Ah, here it is:
twitter.com/Baroness_Nichol/status/1286574689679216645

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DresdenChina · 24/07/2020 18:52

I get the feeling this woman is using her platform as an MP not to actually help her constituants but to leverage her power to push 'activist' issues.

'We must not fetishise “debate” '

Then maybe she should retire because debating is a huge part of her job.

BaronessWrongCrowd · 24/07/2020 19:00

I get the feeling that, very much like Mahiri Black, Nadine is too immature and not wise enough to hold the position of MP. There are a lot of young MP's of both sexes who seem to lack common senses and are willing to throw away rights that don't belong to them away.

They simply have not had the life experience to understand people, often having come straight from university.

BaseDrops · 24/07/2020 19:04

How can someone quote something about belief and existence and not think uhhhh hang on?

How can she say any of that without realising you can’t identify sex discrimination without accurately recording sex?

Why is the roll back of sex based rights not to be debated?

Why is the meaning of the word woman debated AT ALL?

wellbehavedwomen · 24/07/2020 19:06

She needs to investigate the etymology of 'Parliament'.

And then she needs to realise that Student Union posturing is not a workable model for adult political discourse.

The Baroness is a class act. That's how politics should work - dicussion, and a recognition that those with whom you disagree may have sincerely held beliefs with good reasons, and that common ground is the only sustainable way forward.

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