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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Is the word ‘cunt’ misogynistic in the U.K.?

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QueenArseClangers · 15/07/2020 19:23

Just that really. I’ve noticed it being a sentiment more common in the US than over here.

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DidoLamenting · 16/07/2020 12:20

When I was a kid at school I didn’t really hear the word it’s definitely used a lot more I hate the word

I agree- although in real life other than in The Thick of It (which I make exception to my dislike of swearing as the swearing there was so inventive and funny) I have not heard it used. I don't know- perhaps I live in a gentle, ladylike bubble- if I do I'm happy to do so.

I really dislike the idea of swearing being just routine language as opposed to a useful outlet justified by extremes such as slamming a door on your hand.

hoodathunkit · 16/07/2020 13:09

:)

hoodathunkit · 16/07/2020 13:13

I agree- although in real life other than in The Thick of It ...

I absolutely love TTOI

This was brilliant

FWRLurker · 16/07/2020 13:17

The US is weird - men use the word “pussy” to denigrate other men, but they use the word “cunt” to denigrate women.

So it’s always vag that is the insult - there are just sex specific variants... It’s interesting to me that Uk uses “cunt” for both sexes.

hoodathunkit · 16/07/2020 14:13

I really should have included a Malcolm Tucker quote

my apologies

I also appreciate this, having been in many similar situations although with dogs rather than children

jessstan2 · 16/07/2020 14:15

I never hear it used. I see it used on here by women but nowhere else.

contactusdeletus · 16/07/2020 14:43

I think it's interesting how swear words can seep into the vernacular, or how, vice versa, words that were once part of the vernacular can be repurposed as swear words.

I remember watching the film Easy A at twenty years old and being absolutely baffled at the shocked reaction to Olive calling another character a twat. I had always thought of it as a very mild term, and had used it right through my childhood. "Don't be a twat", "he's a bit of a twat", "wait until you hear about the twattery I had to put up with today" etc. I considered it no more offensive than "idiot" or "fool", and couldn't understand why they were acting like Olive had called the other girl a cunt in school or something.

Eventually I discovered that they mean the same thing, and to Americans are apparently equally bad. I was stunned.

Interestingly, the attitude I had absorbed about the word "cunt" was that it was totally unacceptable and the worst of all words if you used it against a woman . . . but in the hands of a man using it against another man (who didn't really mean him any harm) it was just extra colourful language and was therefore acceptable. The man also had to have a proven track record of No Sexist Attitudes Against Women for me to okay its use.

I couldn't even tell you where I formed this belief, but I'm surprised to find I mostly still hold it. Funny how people are.

DidoLamenting · 16/07/2020 16:17

@jessstan2

I never hear it used. I see it used on here by women but nowhere else.
Yes - I'm the same. It's another "only on Mumsnet"
TheMarzipanDildo · 16/07/2020 16:24

I like the word. It’s about context really. I wouldn’t use it in the presence of my mother, and I mentally begrudge certain people it’s use. Not Malcolm Tucker though, as should be evidenced by my username

jessstan2 · 17/07/2020 01:18

DidoLamenting, I agree, it is so unnecessary too.

The word used in the right context, ie during loving intimacy, is fine, we can use all sorts of words at those times.

Used as a swear and how it is often used here is just so crude.

alexdgr8 · 17/07/2020 01:38

it's absolutely abhorrent.
i wouldn't have anybody in my house who said it,
nor would i remain in any company where it was said, unless immediately retracted and apologised for. even then i would view someone who said it at all, very warily.
there is no excuse or necessity for such foul language.

MrsTerryPratchett · 17/07/2020 02:27

@alexdgr8

it's absolutely abhorrent. i wouldn't have anybody in my house who said it, nor would i remain in any company where it was said, unless immediately retracted and apologised for. even then i would view someone who said it at all, very warily. there is no excuse or necessity for such foul language.
You say THAT it's abhorrent but don't explain WHY it's abhorrent. Without the why it's a little difficult to refer back to the original question.
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holidayplanningnewbie · 17/07/2020 06:23

There is no sense to it. For example why is "twat" considered a mild swear word when cunt is the most offensive word ever when they mean the same thing. It's just bizarre.

That's regional. For some (is it in the North of England? I forget), twat is considered just as strong as cunt, so be careful of your audience with this one!

holidayplanningnewbie · 17/07/2020 06:27

@stumbledin

Its not who it is used against, but the fact that a part of a biological female's anatomy is considered to be the worst thing someone should be.

Calling men a bit of a dick is just jokey.

Too many people still rely on saying something or someone is a because they think it is the ulitimate insult.

Should never ever be used.

It's an indiction of the "men in our heads" ie that we grew up in and are still living in a world dominated by male values.

The problem with saying it should never be used is that this is what gives it its power.

The less it's heard, for fear of offence, the more shocking it is when you do hear it.

The Scots who use it loads and have subverted its meaning to include "mate" are arguably nearer to taking the misogyny out of the word that those who never use it.

holidayplanningnewbie · 17/07/2020 06:35

@DidoLamenting

In Scotland it pretty much means mateIn Scotland it pretty much means mate

It certainly does not.

Yeah, not in Scotland, it’s the word used to describe the people you really like, and the word used to describe the people you really don’t?

No it isn't.

Unless you are from Glasgow
in which case it can be used simultaneously for - your worst enemy, your best friend, as a collective noun, and possibly punctuation

Claptrap.

You are speaking for yourselves. I'm so bored with this nonsense that everyone in Scotland goes around swearing all the time.

Why are you trying to deny an interesting cultural phenomenon exists just because you don't do it?

I'm not aware of anyone saying everyone in Scotland swears all the time.

But lots of my friends, for example, swear with abandon, but it's only the Scottish ones who use "cunt" to mean something like "mate".

DidoLamenting · 17/07/2020 09:04

I'm glad I don't have friends like yours then. I'm just amazed at this determination to insist this is normal in Scotland.

holidayplanningnewbie · 17/07/2020 11:38

@DidoLamenting

I'm glad I don't have friends like yours then. I'm just amazed at this determination to insist this is normal in Scotland.
Dido you have a very narrow view of the world.

My friends are lovely. Obviously not for you, but then again we don't tend to warm to people who display narrowmindedness as a badge of honour, so I that's probably a good thing. No love lost...

Each to their own, eh?

Liddell · 17/07/2020 11:41

alexdgr8

it's absolutely abhorrent.
i wouldn't have anybody in my house who said it,
nor would i remain in any company where it was said, unless immediately retracted and apologised for. even then i would view someone who said it at all, very warily.
there is no excuse or necessity for such foul language.

I feel exactly the same as you.

It is an insult to women and considered the worst swear word there is, which is very offensive to me.

ChurchOfWokeApostate · 17/07/2020 16:05

I'm glad I don't have friends like yours then. I'm just amazed at this determination to insist this is normal in Scotland

It’s pretty normal where I am, East London/Essex.
It’s not that everyone walks around saying it, but it just isn’t at all unusual to hear. You would be shocked to hear it.
I’d say it’s mostly men, but again, wouldn’t be shocked or surprised hearing a woman say it either.
Can be used quite endearingly, ‘you see this cunt here, he’s.... insert complement here’
Suppose it’s just what you’re used to, I wouldn’t think badly of anyone who said it

ChurchOfWokeApostate · 17/07/2020 16:06

*wouldn't be shocked, that should say

2Rebecca · 17/07/2020 16:12

Calling it the worst swear word ever seems very melodramatic but then I don't get that upset by swearing. I rarely swear myself but how much people swear and which words they use has more to do with what language those around them use rather than people using particular words being evil

Deliriumoftheendless · 17/07/2020 16:36

I live in Yorkshire and I’ve never noticed it being applied to women more than men. Probably more men that women get called cunt.

Bella2020 · 17/07/2020 16:42

I absolutely loathe the word and, yes, I feel it is misogynistic. It is a word used in anger or hate, no matter which sex it is directed at, saying the lowest of the low is a woman's vagina.

Glitterkitten24 · 17/07/2020 16:44

@chipperfish

Unless you are from Glasgow in which case it can be used simultaneously for - your worst enemy, your best friend, as a collective noun, and possibly punctuation
I am from Glasgow and literally came on to say this. It can be a term of endearment here. Grin
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