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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

TES piece on period poverty fails to mention girls

18 replies

Wimbund · 15/07/2020 15:32

I'm so disheartened. Have NC:

www.tes.com/news/period-poverty-how-fix-missed-issue-lockdown

Hope link works. If not, please see Ann Mroz tweet. You will need a free TES account to access.

How can we tackle period poverty without mentioning girls?

How can we teach girls to be positive about their bodies and periods?

Editor Ann Mroz mentions girls in her Tweet, but the author, a teacher, deliberately leaves out the word girls and says that phrases like 'feminine hygeine" erase the experience of trans boys and trans men who menstruate.'

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SarahTancredi · 15/07/2020 15:37

And which toilets are transmen and non binary people going to be using when they discover this need for the free sanpro?

Are they going to waste lonited funds and supplies stocking two sets if toilets or are trans boys (rightly ) going to be using the girls and in that case then bow can the word feminine hygiene ve the trigger and not the fact its the girls toilet ?

How the fuck do you battle the stigma around periods when no one can even mention who has them?

Fucks sake

showmethegin · 15/07/2020 15:37

I've just commented on the tweet. So disappointing I agree

SarahTancredi · 15/07/2020 15:38

limited funds

highame · 15/07/2020 15:39

Is this an acknowledgement that girls need safe spaces

From the article Ensure that all toilets are provided with a range of menstrual products – even better, these should be in the cubicles.

Mooncupdotcom · 15/07/2020 15:44

Absolutely ridiculous article.
Normalise your language? How about saying women and girls then?

Wimbund · 15/07/2020 15:44

Thanks Showme
I really want to comment but my account is linked to work and I work in a school.

I kept scrolling through the article, but the world 'girls' never appeared. It appears it is acceptable to erase girls.

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Mooncupdotcom · 15/07/2020 15:48

So written by a teacher who's part of BLOODY GOOD CAUSE
... Who have a sections on Feminism and safe spaces on their website...? abloodygoodcause.wordpress.com/category/feminism-2/

How come this article is so guarded? Come on TES. Speak accurately and help the profession be clear on sex based rights and spaces.

wellbehavedwomen · 15/07/2020 15:49

"feminine hygiene" erasing the experiences of trans boys and trans men who menstruate.

Naturally it's fine to erase women and girls, though. Even when discussing their biology. Heaven forfend we centre women, even though women perform 100% of the world's reproductive labour.

What a hideous example of internalised misogyny. Thank God that woman will never be anywhere near my kids.

SarahTancredi · 15/07/2020 15:50

I kept scrolling through the article, but the world 'girls' never appeared. It appears it is acceptable to erase girls

Lack of periods can mean health issues. Dsds, pregnancy, eating disorders, of we tell girls that "some people " have periods if theirs stop or don't start by 16 then instead of realising something may be wrong wont they just assume they are amongst the people who don't?

The girls who regularly need the free sanpro may well he the ones with neglectful parents who maybe dont supply them or maybe haven't ever talked to their children about periods and therefore be more in need than ever of clear language and biological facts

WatchoutfortheROUS · 15/07/2020 15:52

Urgh. Ffs. How can people like this be let loose on children.

Only women menstruate. Only women have periods. Only women give birth.

ShinyFootball · 15/07/2020 15:55

It's not being feminine that makes you have periods it's being female

Feminine hygiene is ick as a phrase

There's nothing feminine about having blood coming out of your vagina . Or maybe we should be putting sparkles in it Grin

wellbehavedwomen · 15/07/2020 15:55

Here's the thing: of course it's right to have additional provision for vulnerable sub-groups. That is, or should be, the norm. ADDITIONAL. What we are seeing is a massive push for the additional, minority-centred provision to be the norm, and the overwhelming majority to be pushed aside... if they're women. Not seen a push from the other side. Just to erase women as a sex class, in favour of pretending that the reason women are oppressed - reproductive potential - is just an amorphous, free-flowing thing that crops up at random across the population, so let's not ever name it as centred in women's biology at all.

If we can't name it, we can't point to it. And who does that benefit, and serve?

Dear Lord, this is not hard. How can people be so 'educated' they miss it?

SarahTancredi · 15/07/2020 16:01

If we can't name it, we can't point to it. And who does that benefit, and serve

I wonder if between girls being to afraid to use mixed sex toilets in schools and the potential fir half the stuff to end up in the boys toilets either unused or vandalised then the government can declare the whole initiative a waste if time and money and stop schools having the funds for free sanpro? Leave girls in the shit again as always

Kantastic · 15/07/2020 16:28

Ensure that all toilets are provided with a range of menstrual products – even better, these should be in the cubicles.

Set aside some funds to invest in a large "DAYS SINCE TOILET LAST FLOODED" sign.

Wimbund · 15/07/2020 17:41

It's so depressing that I am now forced to question if Ann Mroz had to write the word 'girls' on purpose?

I'm so jaded that I have to question the healthy, natural and innocent pairing of 'girls' and 'periods' in the same sentence and whether a journalist has had to write this on purpose to make it clear that only females bleed. Or whether she's blissfully unaware that we cannot speak of such things now.

I might be overthinking this of course.

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SarahTancredi · 15/07/2020 18:33

I think its just to throw us a bone tbh. Hope we don't notice the rest of it. Keep us quiet.

lionheart · 16/07/2020 10:33

Here's some new technology which is designed for 'every single person with a vagina'.

gizmodo.com/this-bluetooth-tampon-is-the-smartest-thing-you-can-put-1777044090

Gwynfluff · 16/07/2020 10:53

Actually, let’s go with this neutralising approach and apply it across the board. Let’s only refer to they/them, talk about people who birth and have periods, people who wear dresses and make up. When OJ says 57% of women support ID, we can point out there is no definable category that can be labelled ‘women’. TWAW will of course have to become PAP to ensure inclusivity and to make sure we don’t use defunct labels and categories.

I suspect we might start to find that actually that was not the intention after all.

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