The Guardian job cuts

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A lot comments standing up for women. What was that phrase again, go woke.....?

Me too.

Me too.

Sorry! It said it hadn't posted the first time.

That's a really good point, ThePurported

If "crazy cat lady' is honestly the most cutting insult they can come up with, then the standard of writing has gone further downhill than I realised.

The way I see it, if I can't trust them to report on women's issues, then why should I trust what they say about the government? Or , the economy? Or the Labour Party? Or Donald Trump? or climate change?

I feel exactly the same. I used to fundamentally trust what the Guardian printed and was never aware of just how much they omitted from their coverage. One example is the way they talk about Ilhan Omar. It creates an utterly distorted picture of her and her opinions which are incredibly misleading.

The Guardian’s sneering condescending attitude towards the USA is perfectly matched by the NYT’s sneering condescending attitude towards the UK.

@Floisme

They don't seem to have the slightest idea how self destructive their stance has been. The way I see it, if I can't trust them to report on women's issues, then why should I trust what they say about the government? Or , the economy? Or the Labour Party? Or Donald Trump? or climate change?

Brilliant point. I've said it before on here, but my family (all devoted Guardian readers) all think I've gone a bit nuts and can't understand why I'm ranting on about the erosion of women's rights. They are utterly unaware.

Well, they were. I've radicalised my sister already

They're also startled by my loathing for LOJ. No idea about the misogyny.

100% agree. I have completely changed - for the better - my approach to news generally. I used to be of the ilk that The Guardian is the morally “right” sort of paper to read and the Daily Mail is morally “wrong”. I used to believe all of the coverage in the Guardian. Now, as a result of this issue I am more analytical and skeptical of all issues, not just this single issue. I appreciate that there are good journalists and bad journalists, and there are issues some papers are good at covering and some they are terrible at covering. The Daily Mail is good on this.

The biggest revelation has been that the Left will twist its own narrative too. I was clearly naive in thinking otherwise, but I see the biggest difference is insight: the Right know when they’re twisting the narrative and own it, those who are typically left wing just cannot possibly entertain the very idea that they would be just as bad. But every time the Guardian publishes a piece that fails to mention important facts, or doesn’t allow comments on articles to let its readers correct things, or deletes comments that are completely accurate, they are also controlling the narrative. They see themselves as being oh-so-superior and not remotely like the Murdoch press, and they have that begging note talking about independence and it’s just one big, fat, lie because I’ve seen the manipulation happen with my own eyes.

It’s the hypocrisy I can’t stand.

Agree 100%, Notbad.

[quote SparklingLime]@SerenityNowwwww: Maybe the need to change their name. The Pink Guardian?

THE GUARDIAN OF THE PRICK[/quote]
Someone on one of the Twitter threads referred to it as the Gonad. Seems appropriate; they could have a big bollock as the masthead.

Perfect, @StrangeLookingParasite!

This from Rod Liddles piece in the times today. Worth a read, there's a link in the Pink News Topic but this bit also caught my eye. Last sentence 😁

Alvarez says we should all boycott The Guardian for the good of our mental health — something I have been urging for years. She thinks the paper is too right wing, of course. (Hell, wait till she sees the Express.) But, whatever the reasoning, it’s good enough for me. Her tweet to this effect has 2,500 heart emojis from people whom one supposes have taken up her clarion call. Soon the only people still buying The Guardian will be from the BBC.

But every time the Guardian publishes a piece that fails to mention important facts,
Thing is, how do we know when they're doing that? If I'm reasonably widely read on the topic then I might spot it but otherwise how? I'm not particularly well up on US politics for example and I don't read their coverage of Trump any more because I can't trust it.

Most of the ones I follow have become increasingly disillusioned over the last few years about how woke ideology has taken over pop culture and ‘ruined’ certain genres.

I see this in my own children. They watch all the old teen shows from Nickelodeon, like iCarly, Drake and Josh and Victorious etc. It's one of the things that as teen siblings they are willing to do together. When they ran out of these series to watch I suggested some of the recent teen aimed stuff coming out on those channels and both said "no we've tried them, they're boring now, the stuff they do and say in the old shows and the things that were funny, they'd never get away with without being cancelled now". It's depressing, younger kids will only ever know sanitised, preachy media unless there's some kind of huge swing back.

I tried to watch Anne with an E on Netflix. Admittedly, as someone in their 30s, it's probably not meant for me, but I was feeling nostalgic. God, it was didactic. It was a bingo card of positive mantras and 21st century ideology. It wasn't enough for Anne to lighten up Avonlea with her imagination and oddness. She had to go preaching about LGBT issues and the injustices done to Native Americans etc.

Yes @Collidascope, Anne with an E was dreadful. I couldn't watch it. So self-righteous and preachy.

Anne as a woke crusader who goes round fighting racism and advocating for LGBT rights.

It was so anachronistic and totally lacked credibility. It massively detracts from the quality of the art-form.

It all reminds me of that bit in Good Omens where Crowley and Aziraphale are discussing the fact that the only film you can watch in heaven is The Sound of Music, and you have to enjoy it because it’s the only thing you can watch. Eventually, we’ll all just be endless watching I, Daniel Blake and Noughts and Crosses over and over again.

@YgritteSnow, can you imagine if they tried to make GoT now? There is absolutely NOTHING that isn’t far too problematic to be adapted without a major rewrite.

Anne as a woke crusader who goes round fighting racism

Oh, yes, I'd forgotten Gilbert's friend Sebastian who the whole of Avonlea was aghast by until Anne showed them the error of their ways.

The posters on this thread have articulated how I feel about the Guardian- thank you.

That person has been toxic for years Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g:

twitter.com/karengeier/status/1078244223084830720

Just another extremely unpleasant lefty driven by hatred of those they view as standing in the way of a progressive utopia.

I'm not convinced by their profile photo.

I did wonder, @nauticant.

"The Guardian’s sneering condescending attitude towards the USA"
OTOH it is, like most UK media, US-centric. Terminology and slogans are adopted wholesale the minute they crop up in liberal US university circles. Usually without explanation never mind consideration...it takes a while to figure some of it out.

Which I guess makes those in the know feel good...once I'd figured out what it meant, I decided the Guardian may have been 'gaslighting' its readers!

@nauticant

That person has been toxic for years Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g:

twitter.com/karengeier/status/1078244223084830720

Just another extremely unpleasant lefty driven by hatred of those they view as standing in the way of a progressive utopia.

I'm not convinced by their profile photo.

I'm not convinced by the profile photo, I wondered if it is a man pretending to be a woman (not a trans person, just a regular dude). Just from the language they used.

I was wondering that, but the voice sounds female. Brought up by narcissists, it would seem.

@nauticant

That person has been toxic for years Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g:

twitter.com/karengeier/status/1078244223084830720

Just another extremely unpleasant lefty driven by hatred of those they view as standing in the way of a progressive utopia.

I'm not convinced by their profile photo.

Oh God, that's horrible. I've never had any time for Gove, and Vine isn't exactly a journalist I follow, but who the hell says or does something like that about a kid being badly injured, just because you dislike the parents' politics?

This person needs to find some therapy. Or a conscience. Preferably both.