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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Tory MP article

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poshme · 15/07/2020 10:14

The Tory MP for Devizes has written an article saying the gov should not allow self ID.

www.conservativehome.com/platform/2020/07/danny-kruger-trans-the-distinction-between-the-sexes-is-real-and-the-government-must-uphold-it.html

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Signalbox · 16/07/2020 14:48

zanahoria I think this is crucial. We can only hope that any amendment includes clearly defined terms relating to sex and gender identity so that from now on everyone knows what these laws actually mean.

Michelleoftheresistance · 16/07/2020 15:05

From the BBC article:

To change a birth certificate most applicants have to:
Provide two medical reports, one showing a diagnosis of "gender dysphoria" and the other outlining details of treatment received
Obtain the consent of their spouse if they are married
Demonstrate that they have lived in their acquired gender for at least two years
Pay £140

No, they do not have to 'obtain the consent of their spouse', they have to notify their spouse that they have made this application, in order to allow the spouse to exit the marriage if they wish to.

As usual, the female in the situation is seen as an unfair barrier to the male's freedoms instead of anyone with rights or skin in the game.Angry

And yes, I'm sure the government are being absolutely hammered by the trans lobby with horrendous amounts of pressure, high drama and obfustication. Please keep writing, although my one comfort is that Liz Truss and the government have openly noted that women's voices get drowned out by this lobby and this is a major problem, and that this lobby uses unfair and unjust tactics to get their way such as gaming consultations. So they are wise to this, and I would hope they balance the pressure they are under accordingly rather than being swayed by it.

Michelleoftheresistance · 16/07/2020 15:12

wellbehavedwoman would also be interesting to ask Crispin if he's in favour of being kind and allowing the females currently excluded from rape crisis, or local toilets, or sleeping rough because of exclusion from refuges to have some services too?

Or is 'be kind' just something female people have to do to male people, regardless of the abuse being served up by them? Females are being abused by this agenda. Telling them to 'be kind' about it would have to mean either he has no idea of the realities of what he's supporting, or he is not someone who should be representing the 50% of his constituents who are female.

FloresTorres · 16/07/2020 19:39

Sensible article by Danny Kruger. Thanks for posting it.

(His mum is Prue Leith.)

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