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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Gender consultation in NZ

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Athrawes · 12/07/2020 03:11

Can I ask all the NZ folk to please look at and respond to this

www.stats.govt.nz/consultations/sex-and-gender-identity-statistical-standards-consultation

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OtepotiLilliane42 · 12/07/2020 04:01

I was alerted to this by 'Speak up for Women' Athrawes and will certainly respond with a submission. I hope many others do too.

NinkiNonkiNikau · 12/07/2020 04:03

Done

ShinyFootball · 12/07/2020 04:05

I read the whole thing.

I'm baffled that statisticians would come up with this.

I can't cut and paste the relevant bits as it puts a load of blurb.

The relevant section is 'Proposed solution – ‘gender by default’ principle' near the beginning.

Apparently in policy making etc, gender is more relevant than sex. Also they note that lots of people think gender means sex. So they are banking on people putting their sex to this question.

They say sex and gender can be asked if relevant, but this is an exception.

The whole thing makes no sense.

And is wholly focused on capturing stats about trans people. Women aren't mentioned at all from what I can see.

I really don't understand how this totally illogical, disconnected from reality, situation has come about.

Seraphinite · 12/07/2020 05:09

I’m still quite new to all of this and have been lurking and reading many of these threads in the last few weeks. Time to get involved with this one.
Not entirely sure where to start with my submission - has anyone got any suggestions for research/cases to refer to etc? Will of course do my homework before submitting but want to ensure this is as compelling as possible. Thank you.

BlueMoo72 · 12/07/2020 10:07

@Seraphinite

I’m still quite new to all of this and have been lurking and reading many of these threads in the last few weeks. Time to get involved with this one. Not entirely sure where to start with my submission - has anyone got any suggestions for research/cases to refer to etc? Will of course do my homework before submitting but want to ensure this is as compelling as possible. Thank you.
I'm also fairly new to all of this.

The following is a very informative discussion about the impact of gender identity Legislation on women's spaces, shelters, prisons and sports in Canada.

The women on the panel are all good speakers and set out the issues with clear examples of harm/risk.

Heather Mason bravely speaks about her experience in prison and gives some horrific examples of what is happening over there, especially to marginalised/at risk women.

The following article is also worth a read:

www.spectator.co.uk/article/Coronavirus-shows-why-its-vital-to-distinguish-sex-and-gender

Eketahuna · 12/07/2020 12:56

The Speak Up For Women group should be able to recommend some resources if you contact them:

speakupforwomen.nz

Seraphinite · 12/07/2020 21:00

Thanks @BlueMoo72 and @Eketahuna, will look at all of these.

ZacharyQuack · 13/07/2020 06:38

Bumping for the NZ evening crowd.

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