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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Excellent piece in the Scotsman in support of JKR

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Minty82 · 11/07/2020 15:07

www.scotsman.com/news/opinion/columnists/why-feminists-me-stand-jk-rowling-trans-rights-row-susan-dalgety-2910085#

Such a relief to see this in print. And yet I’m still dithering over whether to share it on my FB page....

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tellmewhentheLangshiplandscoz · 11/07/2020 15:15

Thanks for sharing OP.

This bit referring to the "glamorous model Munroe Bergdorf, did make me smile - "She recently joined their UK diversity and inclusion advisory board, presumably to give them an insight into what trans women think about blusher and lipstick."

But I really this - "And trans rights aren’t at risk from debate – people do not die from debate."

I quite like how the journo's tone is head girl bossy too Grin

peadarm · 11/07/2020 15:32

Interesting to see the reference there to Andrea Dworkin, as a recent Conversation piece claimed Dworkin was "quite emphatic about including trans women as women".

It's one of the most bizarre claims I've seen - anybody with even a cursory knowledge of Dworkin would know she relentlessly equated 'penis' and 'man' - and the 'reference' provided (by a University professor, this) is to a quote within a NYT piece where Dworkin remarks that "transvestite men" have penetrated to the core experience of the romanticised social construct of womanhood.

This is read - with deliberate naivety? - as saying "transvestite men" - specifically referred to by Dworkin as that, and as "these men" - are the ultimate women, and therefore Dworkin was "quite emphatic about including trans women as women".

This is one philosophy professor quoting another, both throwing analysis and the most basic research principles out the window.

JellyFishSquish · 11/07/2020 15:39

I am not able to view it, can anybody paste some of it?

Cismyfatarse1 · 11/07/2020 16:14

I already have a thread on this.

Minty82 · 11/07/2020 16:33

Oh sorry, I did look but didn’t see it.

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